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Just want to share the thrill of taking off from a sea level airport in my J. This may sound odd to those who live at sea level, but as a pilot living and working the western mountain states I am so use to the longer take off roll at high altitude airports that this longer roll is what seems normal to me. Today, however, I was in the San Francisco Bay Area and when I took off I felt like I was Tom Cruise in Top Gun. I found myself humming the song "Danger Zone" for the next ten minutes. A little while later I am at 15,500 ft over Yosemite. What a ride!!! -- Of course I'm not telling you something you don't already know.... I just felt like telling someone who understands why I like my plane so much!

A snail sure comes in handy out west.

Or perhaps the 900 because it is certified as "primary" and you can replace a hockeysock full of instruments.

Hey Brett, get off our board!... and take me for a ride.

I received this last night from chief. There should be jpi rebates in addition to this. http://chiefaircraftinc.com/1OM5-29YWG-6F9FP6Z580/cr.aspx

The round dial unit may have a better chance of fitting in the panel in front of the pilot.... Something to keep in mind while looking... Best regards, -a-

I'm happy with the 830 I own. If I were in the market today, I would definitely check out the EI CGR-30P since it is considered primary and is priced in the 830 range. Sent using Tapatalk

JPI for sure will have a rebate for the Sun & Fun convention next month and you do not have to attend to claim it. If you buy from one of their dealers (say Gulf Coast) during the rebate period (well beyond the duration of the Convention) they'll send you a coupon with the unit, send it to JPI with a copy of your receipt and they'll send you the rebate for that product. JPI engine monitors and the 450 fuel totalizer have had a GPS output for a long time now. Because I got a great price at the time I have the totalizer and the engine monitor in two separate instruments which in a way I like better because I do not have to scroll and chose either engine or ff display like in a single instrument (say EDM 700). Connected to the GPS, the fuel information in terms of used, required to destination and reserve is updated constantly if you adjust the power, the winds change impacting your ground speed or if you deviate for weather. I'm surprised that some do not find this information useful. Flying in the flight levels does not apply to most of us.

OK. The 730 series does not have an orange display, in fact, it is virtually identical to the 830 except it does not have capability for MAP. Fuel flow is optional as is RPM. I have the 730 with fuel flow connected to my GPS and it's a great unit. I already had fuel flow in my plane (JPI FS 450) so I just replaced it with a 730. If I had to buy the 730 with the fuel flow option it might be best just to go with the 830. My only mistake is that the only hole in my panel was on the copilot side (see picture) and neither the 730 nor 830 has a wide viewing angle which means I have to lean over a bit to see it. I'll probably end up fabricating a 20 degree angle bracket to aim it my way a bit. Amazingly enough I have not been able to find one for sale anywhere. Spruce makes them for the smaller 2 inch holes but not for the 3 inch Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Get the 830 or but the EI brand I bought my 830 2 years ago but I understand the EI might be a better bang for the buck. Don't get the 730series JPI the orange display makes it look dated...its smaller, harder to read and most importantly won't get your attention should one of your predetermined thresholds such as cht oil temp exceed what you set the alarm at. The 730 flashes the one color it has....orange the 830 flashes red and it's larger screen gets your attention. The post about the flight levels is mostly irrelevant because your 201 isn't a flight level machine. My gps and fuel at waypoint or destination is a AWESOME tool to help make good decisions. I use it all the time.

But Pi is an irrational number - they didn't finish - I only see a finite number of digits. This must be Pi approximation day.

JPI usually has rebates. It looks like the one below just ended. They will very likely start a new one in a couple of weeks during the week of Sun In Fun. Most dealers will offer discounts on top of the rebates during the show. I got a 830 2 years ago at Oshkosh for $2600. That was a considerable savings over the best deal I could find the week before. http://sarasotaavionics.com/whats-new-in-avionics/jp-instruments-rebates

I have a 930 that was installed four or five years ago. It has always provided fuel to destination information. It is connected to the GPS but I am not sure exactly what information it gets, probably the 430's calculation of time remaining. I have to say though, that fuel to destination is not particularly useful to me, for three reasons. One is that when I am flying in the flight levels, there is going to be a protracted descent, 30-40 minutes at the end of the flight where the average fuel number that the 430 uses while at cruise, is going to become irrelevant. It can tell me a reserve number when I am at cruise, but my actual reserve is going to be several gallons more. Second, I almost never get anywhere near empty tanks, so I don't pay much attention to what reserve it is telling me. Third, if I am going to get anywhere near empty tanks I use my own tracking of fuel flow so I know with precision how much is in each tank,, not what the GPS calculates. So the fuel numbers the 930 provides are just readouts of what the 430 is computing, and not particularly of interest. The 930 is great for a lot of things, but its fuel reserve computations are not of particular interest to me.

Connecting GPS with FF is a nice modern feature. Fuel to destination is always good to know... Best regards, -a-

I believe the GPS interface works both ways: It will give you mpg, fuel req to get to destination, etc on the 830 and the GPS will give you calculations as well depending on GPS(GTN-650, etc) 830 also includes fuel flow as standard obviously... If not interested in fuel flow and resulting data, then go with 730.

When we do the photo shoot you can look at my MVP-50

+2 Autopilots Central The big problem with autopilot problems is that there are multiple systems involved and the failure point or error resulting in your issues could be anywhere. Best thing to make a detailed listing of all symptoms of what is happening in all modes of A/P use...including for example everything that works just right. So when you call, they can quickly zero in on potential areas. In my one experience with them - they quickly (but preliminarily) diagnosed over the phone what the problem was with mine (it was "hunting in VS and Alt" - said it was likely a cold solder in the computer) although they had to see the plane to confirm. Turns out they were 100% correct on the phone diagnosis...and this was after the AP computer and altimeter had previously been sent to Honeywell for bench checks (and of course they found nothing but still charged me $$$ - and AP Central found the problem was in the computer!!!). Do not wasted time and money elsewhere...call the guys in Tulsa first. It might be an easy fix and not requiring a shop visit to them. (Btw, if you can't tell, I am still mad about all the time and dollars spent tracking down my AP problem...and not just with Honeywell. Also worked with a "so called" AP shop in California, sent the pitch and trim servos out for adjustment to some other shop, Attitude Indicator for O/H, etc. Total waste of money and time except for finally calling Tulsa and having them fix it. This all happened over the course of two years in 2004-2005 and the A/P has worked fine since then although it's getting a bit fuzzy lately in following NAV courses...may have to go back to Tulsa!)

Very good point about the cost as my Mooney is a 252 so it is higher. As for spreading out the cost, I considered it but I live in Georgia and decided to do it in one fell swoop so it only took one set of frequent flyer miles and fuel costs. I just waited until I had the cash reserved for the project. Of course I got hit with a more expensive than usual annual at the same time. Doh!! Why does it always work out that way?!?!?

Here are some pix with the tank cleaned.

OK, so here are some pix from Paul.

I started down that road when I had the Mooney but ended up with PALS (Patient Airlift Services). I got to do one flight last year and hope to do more this year. Very rewarding and I loved helping!! I like PALS as they reimburse for part of the fuel cost.

Did I ever tell the story about the time I walked past a Baron in my Rocket? It was his first flight outside the area around APA. Both of us has chosen that day to fly down to Santa Fe for lunch. He went IFR at 10,000' while I was VFR at 10,500. I was on flight following that day. As I tuned to Pueblo approach I heard him go back to center. Shortly after I was back with center he started calling traffic 12 O'clock 500 ft low and closing. I thought nothing of it as I passed and went on to Santa Fe. I saw the Baron taxi up to parking as our shuttle left for downtown. After lunch when we got back to the airport the girls went in to use the facilities and I went out to pre flight. The Baron was parked right next to me. The pilot struck up a conversation. Seems it was the first flight in his big new fast twin and he was crushed and had to find out what had passed him. As center started to point out the Mooney about to pass he had sped up trying to stay ahead, I innocently walked on by. He was amazed at my speed and efficiency. I know there are reasons besides speed for flying a twin and I hope you enjoy your new steed. But this is a Mooney site and I couldn't resist a poke as you fly off into your future. With the Colemill conversion I bet I would not have closed so easily if you were the Baron ahead. Enjoy, Randy

I have a suggestion. I have owned Beechcraft in the past and still frequent the beech talk forum. It's a great place They have rules in place for classifieds. You must post a price NO disparaging remarks-- it's up to the buyer to exercise due diligence These two rules (there are others) keep the tone mature and polite. Visitors to the site are not turned off and this adds to their perception of the pilots and the aircraft How about guys? Maturity and politeness.

I flew my C for 10years, then several years ago I installed a Millenium engine, Power Flow, challenge filter. The take off was dramatically better. At altitude my buddy in his E cannot out run me.