Wanted: Propeller Control Cable

[BigTex]

My prop cable finely gave it up and has to be replaced. Does anyone have a spare they'd like to unload?

[moodychief]

Have one made at McFarlane. Here is a copy of an email from the FSDO on owner produced parts.

From: David.F.Hall@faa.gov [mailto:David.F.Hall@faa.gov]

Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 9:23 AM

To: Charles Jones

Subject: Owner Produced Part

Charles:

I have accomplished some additional research concerning your question about a replacement engine control cable for your Mooney:

Yes you can have a part manufactured and classify it as an "owner produced part" as identified in FAR 21.9 (a)(5), which is attached.

There is a process that must be followed and it is identified in Advisory Circular 20-62E which is attached. Its not very difficult or hard to comply with. (see Advisory Circular 20-62E, paragraph 4(n))

You stated to me during our conversation that you were aware of a manufacturing facility that produces similar cables for other makes of general aviation aircraft.

I believe you will be well within regulatory compliance with the requirements for an "owner produced" part if you complied with the following list of actions:

a) You are the legal owner of the aircraft.

You remove the cable from your aircraft to be used as a sample to manufacturer a new cable.

c) Provide the cable the cable manufacturer you referenced in our conversation as a sample for the manufacture of a new cable. (Providing the manufacturer of the cable to use as a sample would satisfy the owners participation responsibility of Advisory Circular 20-62E).

d) Install the new cable in your aircraft by a person authorized to approve the aircraft for return to service after the installation. The maintenance log entry for the new cable should indicate that the cable installed is an owner produce part in accordance with FAR 21.9.

We believe if you follow the above guidance, you will have complied with all of the FAA regulatory requirements to classify the new cable as an "owner produced part". Additionally having the cable manufactured by a manufacturer who is experienced in manufacturing similar cables for other type certificated aircraft will assure your aircraft is returned to service in a condition that is equal or better than its original condition (FAR 43.13)

David F. Hall

Aviation Safety Inspector

SW LIT FSDO

501 918 4417

[carusoam]

This is a nice piece of information that should be saved in a special place on MooneySpace....

Just thinking out loud...

-a-

[BigTex]

Charles, did you have McFarlane manufacture a cable for you?

[moodychief]

Yes. I had a prop cable done last year.

[moodychief]

The one I had made replaced my previous one that was getting hard to operate. I didn't realize how bad my old cable was until the first time I cycled my prop with the new cable. Smooooth as butter.

[BigTex]

Nice... Thanks for sharing.

[1964-M20E]

Yes very good information the only cable that I see as really out f the ordinary on our planes is the throttle cable because of the limit switch.  the others seem to be pretty much standard.

[BigTex]

Well, an interesting thing happened.  Before calling McFarlane and having them create a custom Prop cable, I did some checking. I found that Southwest Texas Aviation had them listed on their Mooney parts list.  So I gave Russell a call and he said that he had two in stock.  So I ordered the cable.  He had Mooney drop-ship it to me.  The next day I got the box from Mooney and opened it up.  Guess who made the cable for Mooney?  Yep, that's right... McFarlane.

 

I'm assuming McFarlane manufactures them exclusively for MAC and that's why they're not listed on their website.

[N601RX]

Has anyone had Mcfarlane make a throttle cable with the notch for the gear switch?

[BigTex]

I suspect it's just like my situation.  McFarlane likely makes them for MAC.  SWTA has the cables listed:

 

660190-005    Throttle Control Cable (1964-1968 M20E & M20F)        $489

660190-003 Throttle Control Cable (1962-1968 M20C,D,G)     $502

660226-001    Throttle Control Cable (M20J 24-0378 Thru 24-TBA)      $438

660226-007    Throttle Control Cable (M20K 25-0001 Thru 25-0999)    $388

 

Give Russell a call and he'll fix you up.

[N601RX]

I just had to replace my throttle cable. McFarland would duplicate my existing one for $375 if I shipped them the old one. Maxwell sold me a new one for $386, so the cost is pretty much equal after you add the cost of shipping the old one to McFarland. The new one was manufactured by McFarland. Looks nice and very smooth. Not fun to install.

[DXB]

  On 8/10/2013 at 12:05 AM, moodychief said:

Have one made at McFarlane. Here is a copy of an email from the FSDO on owner produced parts.

From: David.F.Hall@faa.gov [mailto:David.F.Hall@faa.gov]

Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 9:23 AM

To: Charles Jones

Subject: Owner Produced Part

Charles:

I have accomplished some additional research concerning your question about a replacement engine control cable for your Mooney:

Yes you can have a part manufactured and classify it as an "owner produced part" as identified in FAR 21.9 (a)(5), which is attached.

There is a process that must be followed and it is identified in Advisory Circular 20-62E which is attached. Its not very difficult or hard to comply with. (see Advisory Circular 20-62E, paragraph 4(n))

You stated to me during our conversation that you were aware of a manufacturing facility that produces similar cables for other makes of general aviation aircraft.

I believe you will be well within regulatory compliance with the requirements for an "owner produced" part if you complied with the following list of actions:

a) You are the legal owner of the aircraft.

You remove the cable from your aircraft to be used as a sample to manufacturer a new cable.

c) Provide the cable the cable manufacturer you referenced in our conversation as a sample for the manufacture of a new cable. (Providing the manufacturer of the cable to use as a sample would satisfy the owners participation responsibility of Advisory Circular 20-62E).

d) Install the new cable in your aircraft by a person authorized to approve the aircraft for return to service after the installation. The maintenance log entry for the new cable should indicate that the cable installed is an owner produce part in accordance with FAR 21.9.

We believe if you follow the above guidance, you will have complied with all of the FAA regulatory requirements to classify the new cable as an "owner produced part". Additionally having the cable manufactured by a manufacturer who is experienced in manufacturing similar cables for other type certificated aircraft will assure your aircraft is returned to service in a condition that is equal or better than its original condition (FAR 43.13)

David F. Hall

Aviation Safety Inspector

SW LIT FSDO

501 918 4417

Nice gem of info, hope it still applies.

[tony]

  On 8/14/2013 at 12:07 AM, N601RX said:

Has anyone had Mcfarlane make a throttle cable with the notch for the gear switch?

 I did nave them make a boost cable which has a similar limit switch for the indicator.  But not a throttle cable, yet......

 

I forgot the guys name at McFarland that you can work with.  He has made a mixture and boost cable for me now.  If you need it I can dig it out. 

 

Both cables are identified in my log book and installed per FAR 21.9 (a)(5).

[M20F-1968]

Is the cable that SWTA had listed, Part No. 660190-005 a McFarland cable or a Mooney cable.  I know it may be one in the same but one eliminates paperwork. 

Does Mooney still stock the older cables for the Vintage birds with the cutout for the throttle switch?  Bill Wheat was having some of these cables made suggesting they might

be hard to find new.

John Breda

[N601RX]

Yes I purchased a new one from Mooney last year through Maxwell.  It was drop shipped from Mooney the same day.  It was manufactured by McFarland, but McFarland will not sell the Mooney part number to you directly.  They will make you a direct replacement for about the same price.