scottfromiowa Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 I flew up to my in-laws cottages in northern Wisconsin (D25) and watched a twin land as I was preparing my plane for departure. I was in the tie down that is immediately adjacent to the fuel pump. I thought to myself what a beautiful bird as she taxied in. I also thought "maybe I should take my plane over now for fuel...but then thought that is a lot of money and they probably want to make a quick turn". Plane taxied up to fuel pump and proceeded to unload over next ten minutes...I waited patiently to access the pump and said to the pilot "I am going to take on fuel after you are finished" as there was a lot of continued un-loading and slow progress going on as they were I'm sure not aware that I was planning on taking on fuel...The owner then said "don't forget to turn off the pump, I'm sure he would like some free fuel" "I joked sure would"...and he said in a very serious voice "I bet you would"... That was my last twin experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepingsquirrel Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 I am never surprised at the kinds of people in the world. I like my circles small, where people understand ; It is actually better to be a small fish in a big pond than to be an asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 A few years ago when I owned the Aerostar I was doing my mechanic a favor by taking one of his customers from DuPage airport to Quad City Iowa to pick up his Conquest II...Filthy rich guy, a bit of a prick, would not get into a single engine to save his life. When we arrived at the FBO, the line guy asked if I would be staying before I was able to say anything Conquest man answers " he's my driver, put his landing fee on my tab", turned around and didn't even say thanks. I suppose he thought the service was complimentary. Luckily these kind of people are the exception and not the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964-M20E Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Quote: alex A few years ago when I owned the Aerostar I was doing my mechanic a favor by taking one of his customers from DuPage airport to Quad City Iowa to pick up his Conquest II...Filthy rich guy, a bit of a prick, would not get into a single engine to save his life. When we arrived at the FBO, the line guy asked if I would be staying before I was able to say anything Conquest man answers " he's my driver, put his landing fee on my tab", turned around and didn't even say thanks. I suppose he thought the service was complimentary. Luckily these kinds of people are the exception and not the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardheitzman Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Kill with Kindness is my motto. I would have gotten out of my aircraft and went over to help unload his aircraft. The whole time I would have been mentioning in a not so subtle way that the fuel point is for fueling, not for loading and unloading aircraft. See, you get your aircraft fueled quicker, and they get the point that they are in the wrong. They person might not have been a total prick about it then. He was probably hot, tired, hungry, dealing with a upset wife / child, airsick, maybe had some bad news, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N33GG Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Quote: richardheitzman Kill with Kindness is my motto. I would have gotten out of my aircraft and went over to help unload his aircraft. The whole time I would have been mentioning in a not so subtle way that the fuel point is for fueling, not for loading and unloading aircraft. See, you get your aircraft fueled quicker, and they get the point that they are in the wrong. They person might not have been a total prick about it then. He was probably hot, tired, hungry, dealing with a upset wife / child, airsick, maybe had some bad news, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottfromiowa Posted June 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Quote: richardheitzman Kill with Kindness is my motto. I would have gotten out of my aircraft and went over to help unload his aircraft. The whole time I would have been mentioning in a not so subtle way that the fuel point is for fueling, not for loading and unloading aircraft. See, you get your aircraft fueled quicker, and they get the point that they are in the wrong. They person might not have been a total prick about it then. He was probably hot, tired, hungry, dealing with a upset wife / child, airsick, maybe had some bad news, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepingsquirrel Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Yes, Scott , He was having such a rough day that you should have offered to pay for his turn-around fuel and all . I can't believe you didn't offer to drive him to his destination as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywarrior Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Quote: scottfromiowa I hear you. This was likely a chartered plane. Pilot(s) were doing the un-loading and fueling...owner/charter chimed in with comments. I am a do it yourself guy (load/fuel my own plane when able-CID has no self-serv fuel), but not going to help with his bags...no thank you. I am not comfortable with someone unloading my golf bag or carrying my luggage...Just don't want/need/expect that. I had no response to his "I bet you would" comment as it told me all I needed to know and was my measurement for/of the man. I WILL move my plane over to the pump next time...Lesson learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottfromiowa Posted June 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 I hear you too...Some fights aren't worth fighting, but in retrospect your point is well taken and I agree that I should have moved in and explained what I thought of his comment and specifically what I feel he should do with the gas pump after his "driver" finished with it. Life is full of moments. I had a nice flight home. He is merely a worm in the afterbirth...with means, but not the class or dignity to go with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 I'm 6'4" and 320 lbs. I don't tolerate insults. He would have been sorry he said that to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottfromiowa Posted June 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Understand Rob, but I was thinking of a few other descriptions for him and have always tried to follow the golden rule. Maybe not physical confrontation, but some direct communication is not necessarily macho or over-the-top and can sometimes bring perspective...or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepingsquirrel Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Quote: scottfromiowa I hear you too...Some fights aren't worth fighting, but in retrospect your point is well taken and I agree that I should have moved in and explained what I thought of his comment and specifically what I feel he should do with the gas pump after his "driver" finished with it. Life is full of moments. I had a nice flight home. He is merely a worm in the afterbirth...with means, but not the class or dignity to go with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottfromiowa Posted June 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 150 drivers ALWAYS want free fuel....Heavy winking and smiling and nodding going on :<) I sure did when I was training in one...sadly I have paid for every gallon of fuel for my lowly 550+ hours (although my wife Kelly probably feels she has paid for a bunch...and she has). I'm done Jim you are of course right on target. Just a little cathartic release... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 I like web flying with you guys!!! -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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