Changing of the guard or retiring from the internet

[Marc_B]

MojoGrip is selling his Sling.

310 Pilot sold his 310.

Malibu Flyer was selling his Malibu and then had a mishap (now in a Bonanza I think)

74 Gear is changing gears with the channel.

Is this the changing of the YouTube guard, natural evolution of internet content, decrease in viewers/revenue, or just how GA typically goes...fly for a while and then hang up your wings? Maybe just been there, done that, moving on?  Sure wish we'd next see great multi-camera well edited Mooney series!!  I think the most Mooney video content I come across these days is from Chris Koppel @Fly_M20R  (which I just subscribed to).

I'd imagine that a great video clip takes WAY more time and effort than it seems...guess the audience for basic training videos, Cessna 172s and the like is much larger than for our Mooneys?  I've been down for maintenance and living vicariously...if you're gonna internet fly...why not be internet flying a Mooney!!

[EricJ]

17 minutes ago, Marc_B said:

MojoGrip is selling his Sling.

310 Pilot sold his 310.

Malibu Flyer was selling his Malibu and then had a mishap (now in a Bonanza I think)

74 Gear is changing gears with the channel.

Is this the changing of the YouTube guard, natural evolution of internet content, decrease in viewers/revenue, or just how GA typically goes...fly for a while and then hang up your wings? Maybe just been there, done that, moving on?  Sure wish we'd next see great multi-camera well edited Mooney series!!  I think the most Mooney video content I come across these days is from Chris Koppel @Fly_M20R  (which I just subscribed to).

I'd imagine that a great video clip takes WAY more time and effort than it seems...guess the audience for basic training videos, Cessna 172s and the like is much larger than for our Mooneys?  I've been down for maintenance and living vicariously...if you're gonna internet fly...why not be internet flying a Mooney!!

Man and a Mooney on YT is pretty good, although he doesn't post nearly as much any more, either.   I think he had a kid, though, which may be taking up some of his bandwidth. 

He has a lot of good mountain flying stuff, especially around Colorado.

https://www.youtube.com/@ManandaMooney

[KLRDMD]

Stevie Triesenberg flies a Bonanza but her content is excellent.

https://www.youtube.com/@bayflight

[Marauder]

MojoGrip is selling his Sling.
310 Pilot sold his 310.
Malibu Flyer was selling his Malibu and then had a mishap (now in a Bonanza I think)
74 Gear is changing gears with the channel.
Is this the changing of the YouTube guard, natural evolution of internet content, decrease in viewers/revenue, or just how GA typically goes...fly for a while and then hang up your wings? Maybe just been there, done that, moving on?  Sure wish we'd next see great multi-camera well edited Mooney series!!  I think the most Mooney video content I come across these days is from Chris Koppel [mention=18357]Fly_M20R[/mention]  (which I just subscribed to).
I'd imagine that a great video clip takes WAY more time and effort than it seems...guess the audience for basic training videos, Cessna 172s and the like is much larger than for our Mooneys?  I've been down for maintenance and living vicariously...if you're gonna internet fly...why not be internet flying a Mooney!!

I think it is about the effort versus monetary reward. I put out a few YouTube videos and found out just how much time is involved in creating just a plain vanilla video. Just creating a boring 10 minute video can take you an hour of editing and compiling time.

To get to the real monetary return phase you need to hit a substantial subscriber level with enough views.

The successful ones are the tubers who have gained sponsorship (like Garmin sponsoring Aviation 101), have solid contributions from their Patreon sponsors and hit the YouTube monetary levels based on their views. It appears the most successful ones are the tubers who have made a career of it.

There are also the negative components to deal with. Premier One pilot (and other aviation posters) have been the subject of FAA investigations because of their viewers.

I think what you are seeing is the nature of the beast.


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[Yetti]

It was interesting.   I had an interesting topic and could slap some videos together in a couple of hours.   Which was good because we were getting about 2 fire calls a week.  So between fire work and video, there was little time for work work. 

What I found entertaining was some of my videos had more views than most of the Texas Forest Service Videos.

The big problem is the requirements to start monitizing the videos, you have to have like a 1000 followers.  Don't worry there is lots of flying.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCapt_uWVG5TTNuTZ2Gl7g0w

This one has the DC-10 tanker close to the ground.  Which was impressive.

 

 

 

 

[RoundTwo]

I think part of it is the nature of YT. You either make videos of what you do, or you find things to do to make videos. Sometimes the hunger for fresh content causes some creators to push the limits. 

[WaynePierce]

I think it's the editing. As a retired video professional I know what it takes and how long... No wonder why so many lose interest, some people built their channels on eye candy... right seat as well as aircraft, but unless you have a "hook" it's very difficult to shoot and edit even one video a week. Plus, the work at finding the "right" feel and sound with royalty free music is probably quite a task as well.

[Fly_M20R]

4 hours ago, Marc_B said:

MojoGrip is selling his Sling.

310 Pilot sold his 310.

Malibu Flyer was selling his Malibu and then had a mishap (now in a Bonanza I think)

74 Gear is changing gears with the channel.

Is this the changing of the YouTube guard, natural evolution of internet content, decrease in viewers/revenue, or just how GA typically goes...fly for a while and then hang up your wings? Maybe just been there, done that, moving on?  Sure wish we'd next see great multi-camera well edited Mooney series!!  I think the most Mooney video content I come across these days is from Chris Koppel @Fly_M20R  (which I just subscribed to).

I'd imagine that a great video clip takes WAY more time and effort than it seems...guess the audience for basic training videos, Cessna 172s and the like is much larger than for our Mooneys?  I've been down for maintenance and living vicariously...if you're gonna internet fly...why not be internet flying a Mooney!!

Hi Marc_B, 

Thank you for the comment and subscription. Editing a video, specially a multi-cam, takes A LOT OF TIME!!!! Then figuring out how to put it together so as not to bore the audience is also a major learning curve. I am still learning. I do it because I love to fly and want to share with others. Specially love to fly my Ovation. In doing some of these videos also helps me refresh and nail down various procedures and regs. One is always learning -practicing - learning some more...

I'll find out what kind of monetization one gets once I get to the level required by YouTube. Not far away... 

Regards,

Chris

[toto]

4 hours ago, EricJ said:

Man and a Mooney on YT is pretty good, although he doesn't post nearly as much any more, either.   I think he had a kid, though, which may be taking up some of his bandwidth. 

He has a lot of good mountain flying stuff, especially around Colorado.

https://www.youtube.com/@ManandaMooney

I'm a fan of this channel as well - very good content, clearly well planned and edited.  He's @Christian here on MS.

[EricJ]

My personal fave that still makes really good content is Flight Chops, which are nearly always very educational.   Mentour Pilot and Blancolirio are still doing a lot, too, but they're all very different for what they're targeting. 

I don't think the coming-and-going is very unusual as it happens all the time in just about any industry.   Somebody enjoys doing something for a while and then moves on to something else.

https://www.youtube.com/user/FlightChops/videos

[toto]

4 hours ago, Marc_B said:

MojoGrip is selling his Sling.

310 Pilot sold his 310.

Malibu Flyer was selling his Malibu and then had a mishap (now in a Bonanza I think)

74 Gear is changing gears with the channel.

Is this the changing of the YouTube guard, natural evolution of internet content, decrease in viewers/revenue, or just how GA typically goes...fly for a while and then hang up your wings? Maybe just been there, done that, moving on?  Sure wish we'd next see great multi-camera well edited Mooney series!!  I think the most Mooney video content I come across these days is from Chris Koppel @Fly_M20R  (which I just subscribed to).

I'd imagine that a great video clip takes WAY more time and effort than it seems...guess the audience for basic training videos, Cessna 172s and the like is much larger than for our Mooneys?  I've been down for maintenance and living vicariously...if you're gonna internet fly...why not be internet flying a Mooney!!

I don't have any experience with this, but I suspect that "niche" YT channels hardly ever reach a point where the YouTuber can make any significant income from Google.  Aviation-related businesses will sponsor the niche channels by providing products or services at heavy discounts, but still - you're putting in a huge amount of work, and getting a discount avionics upgrade or a discount paint job doesn't pay your mortgage.  It only makes sense if it's a labor of love.

[toto]

13 minutes ago, EricJ said:

My personal fave that still makes really good content is Flight Chops, which are nearly always very educational.   Mentour Pilot and Blancolirio are still doing a lot, too, but they're all very different for what they're targeting. 

I don't think the coming-and-going is very unusual as it happens all the time in just about any industry.   Somebody enjoys doing something for a while and then moves on to something else.

https://www.youtube.com/user/FlightChops/videos

Another one worth a look is FlyWire (Scott Perdue).  He does both the accident deconstruction thing and the flying education thing - all quite good.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLjbnpphv5EQ6IEY5pWKBzw

[Marauder]

It also helps having some eye candy on your videos to help drive your income.

There are a number of people who have calculated the financials behind some of the more successful YouTubers. Like this couple.

Let’s see, what are the chances I would get 1.5 million subscribers being an old Mooney driver using some of the girls in my videos?

Spock: “Captain that is illogical”


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[smwash02]

I suspect it's a blend of multiple things:

• The YT crowd are under heavy scrutiny and could lose the privilege of doing what they love
• They want to make their life more private again
• The conversion from hobby to job could make it lose its allure
• The personality type that does things like this often has a time limit before they are ready for the next thing
• Life changes that make it not really part of their life anymore or it's too inconvenient to continue

Edited January 3, 2023 by smwash02

[toto]

A little bit OT, but I found this blog post interesting. This guy has a pretty good side hustle going.

https://brickexperimentchannel.wordpress.com/2022/11/19/my-youtube-earnings/

Definitely not your standard “look at me” lifestyle channel .. he builds things out of Legos. 

[jlunseth]

Most of them are of the ”look, I flew my airplane” type, some with gimmicks involved. “Look, here I am talking to ATC.” “Look, here I am landing an airplane.” Boring. I have watched a few and can’t stand more than a minute or two of the engine droning and some person babbling. I would rather go fly my own airplane and maybe learn something. There are a few, just a few, that really teach something. 

[Marc_B]

46 minutes ago, jlunseth said:

Most of them are of the ”look, I flew my airplane” type, some with gimmicks involved.

Seems like a lot of the educational content is more driven by Cessna 172's and targeted for intro pilots...but I found the BoldMethod videos helpful in general and those are Cirrus oriented.  But I agree, flying yourself is WAY better...but sometimes when you're grounded you just need a fix!   I'm still waiting for the BoldMethod parachute demonstration!! ha ha

[jlunseth]

4 hours ago, Marc_B said:

.but sometimes when you're grounded you just need a fix!   

Yup, there is that!