Kevin M Posted May 30, 2022 Report Posted May 30, 2022 Left Bendix Shower of Sparks needed S4LN-204 to be specific. This saga has drawn out for far too long. We have narrowed it down to a bad capacitor either not replaced during rebuild or not found faulty. The plane has been baking in the hot Thermal sun for a month. (KTRM). If anyone has a Magneto they can part with for about a month or permanently? Please reach out! I’ve been to the west coast four times to pick this thing up. And each time I’ve had to get on an airliner back to Florida. The Mag rebuild shop has so far been great to work with and standing behind there product However, the process is taking forever. Long story short! I’m currently waiting for mechanic to find time to remove magneto, box it up and ship it back to Tulsa for another rebuild. I’ve got three weeks off before my work schedule resumes to wide open throttle So time is a commodity I’m running out of. I’d either like to buy/borrow/ or rent a unit to get the aircraft moved. Should one of you have one available? Here’s the plan. Fly back out to California, rent a car. R&I with operable unit, box it up (currently installed unit) and ship it out myself. Have mechanic inspect and sign off! Then aircraft can be safely moved while shipping and rebuild occurs. Once new Mag returns I will repeat the process with newly rebuilt unit. I know Spruce has one. So if anyone has one that could be used for a core? That would work as well. Here’s what is happening. The aircraft starts right up on second blade when cold. Operates smoothly during ground ops. Mag checks are both great with less than 100 rpm drop. ( both normal power and full power checks are great) Once the aircraft builds some heat which occurs pretty quickly in the hot desert conditions (approx 390-400F) The left mag starts misfiring and running very rough. If we shut it down and allow to cool. The aircraft runs great, but, does the same thing after heating up. The best guesses from the more initiated are leaning to a faulty Capacitor. Any thoughts or input is always welcome. Thanks to All, Enjoy the Day our Vets Risked and Gave all For, kevin Quote
carusoam Posted May 30, 2022 Report Posted May 30, 2022 See what @Alan Fox has on the shelf… (M20C magneto) -a- Quote
PT20J Posted May 30, 2022 Report Posted May 30, 2022 Can you get one from QAA and ship them back the old one to get a refund on the core charge? Quote
David Lloyd Posted May 30, 2022 Report Posted May 30, 2022 Don lent me one last year for a few weeks. @hammdo Quote
LANCECASPER Posted May 30, 2022 Report Posted May 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Kevin M said: The Mag rebuild shop has so far been great to work with and standing behind there product However, the process is taking forever. Long story short! I’m currently waiting for mechanic to find time to remove magneto, box it up and ship it back to Tulsa for another rebuild Are you using QAA in Tulsa? If so you've identified your problem. I've said it before, but I wouldn't use them to rebuild a part on my lawn mower. If they would just take "Quality" out of their name and put it into their workmanship . . . kinda like back in the 70's when Ford was saying that "Quality Is Job One" . . the problem is that it was also job two and job three and job four . . . . I would use Aero Accessories in Van Nuys CA to do the work and fight it out with your credit card on the shop in Tulsa since they haven't been able to get it right. 1 Quote
Kevin M Posted May 30, 2022 Author Report Posted May 30, 2022 I’ve heard great things about the van buys shop. Too little too late though. Also heard they are lightening fast turn around time compared to what I’ve been dealing with. I gave a list of places to the previous owner as he removed them and shipped them originally. Had I know it would end up like this. I’d have booked a flight and hand delivered em to VNY myself. Now I’m at the mercy of an off airport mechanics time to get there and get them off etc etc etc. Quote
markgrue Posted May 30, 2022 Report Posted May 30, 2022 Might it not be faster and cheaper to simply replace the condenser? Mark Quote
hammdo Posted May 30, 2022 Report Posted May 30, 2022 2 hours ago, David Lloyd said: Don lent me one last year for a few weeks. @hammdo David is right - I have one you can use for a few weeks. Just cover shipping - has around 450 hours on it. Ship it back once you have yours ;o) PM me if that interest you… -Don Quote
Kevin M Posted May 30, 2022 Author Report Posted May 30, 2022 Again, you guys never cease to amaze me. Rebuild shop indicated they did not have one to send out immediately. So it’s back to a ship it and wait game. As far as replacing the condenser? I’m sure it is easy enough. However, these guys have to back their product. I can bolt things up just fine. I’m not qualified to crack one open and start replacing things from a legal standpoint. And I’d prefer to not have the liability. the local mechanics (two) I’ve spoke with that are in the area of where the plane is parked seem well capable of getting it done and signed off. It’s more of a time thing. They are both booked solid. I’ve got a finite amount of time to get this going and get it shaken down and moved east. Chris and Devin might be able to do it. But, again. Their time is valuable and scarce this time of year. I’m looking to do the entire trip VMC due to not knowing the aircraft too well. So I’m planning for WX waits along the way. I have a hard date on when I have to return to my day job. Kevin Quote
chriscalandro Posted May 30, 2022 Report Posted May 30, 2022 We’re leaning on it being coils. It starts and runs perfectly. When it heats up it skips and misses at full power. coils probably weren’t replaced at OH Quote
Ragsf15e Posted May 30, 2022 Report Posted May 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Kevin M said: Hammdo. You have a PM I also do. Removed for SF mag install on IO360A1A. If the one you’re already working falls through let me know. Ill have to check the exact model number for you to make sure it’s what you need. Quote
Kevin M Posted May 30, 2022 Author Report Posted May 30, 2022 Wow. You guys are truly amazing. I sure hope I can help someone out in the future like you guys have helped me. the Mag is a Bendix 10-163045-3 (S4LN-204). Kevin Quote
LANCECASPER Posted May 30, 2022 Report Posted May 30, 2022 If neither of those works out there are a couple of used ones on Ebay for what it's worth. (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=Bendix+10-163045-3+S4LN-204&_sacat=0) Quote
hammdo Posted May 31, 2022 Report Posted May 31, 2022 Got Kevin covered, she goes out tomorrow... -Don 4 Quote
carusoam Posted June 1, 2022 Report Posted June 1, 2022 Today’s super MSer award goes to Don aka Hammdo! Kevin, Have no fear… when around here long enough… you will be sharing your knowledge or a spare part when the time comes…. Everyone has some knowledge to be shared…. Go MS! Best regards, -a- Quote
Kevin M Posted June 1, 2022 Author Report Posted June 1, 2022 Carusoam, I hope someday I will have something of value to contribute. Either knowledge or a part or a ride etc etc. I’m glad I found this place. You guys have blown we away? I do have a working old king kx175 if anyone needs to use one for awhile. Lololol. I do believe it came over on the Mayflower. But, works just fine. Kevin 2 Quote
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