LANCECASPER Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 This is my first year with the G1000 so I'm using the United States Standard + FliteCharts OnePak. (You show the Pilot Pak above) If I had a Garmin Portable my subscription would cover that and it covers the Premium upgrade to Garmin Pilot, which I'm trying out. (I use my Delaware address on my Garmin account which saves a little.) I'll probably drop the Flite Charts next year and just use charts on my iPad. 1 Quote
aggiepilot04 Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 I pay for the FlightCharts OnePak, which feels like a huge ripoff considering how often I really *require* updates. It's really not that hard to cross-reference with current ForeFlight data. I do that anyways even with current data for redundancy, and I suspect that most of us do the same. The problem is that it's around 2 updates per year (FlightCharts + Navdata) where the OnePak pays for itself...so it ends up being more economical to go with OnePak. I also tried Garmin Pilot when I first transitioned to the G1000, but hated it vs. ForeFlight flight planning/performance calculations....so ended up back on ForeFlight. That was a couple of years ago though, so maybe Garmin Pilot has improved since then. Quote
aggiepilot04 Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 By the way, if you're on the latest G1000 update, you can export your engine/flight logs directly to fly.garmin.com. I love this feature, and you can replay each of your flights complete with engine data and all. It also calculates currency and such, so it's made me a bit lazy in keeping my paper logbook up to date. 1 Quote
Healthpilot Posted February 2, 2022 Author Report Posted February 2, 2022 19 hours ago, LANCECASPER said: This is my first year with the G1000 so I'm using the United States Standard + FliteCharts OnePak. (You show the Pilot Pak above) If I had a Garmin Portable my subscription would cover that and it covers the Premium upgrade to Garmin Pilot, which I'm trying out. (I use my Delaware address on my Garmin account which saves a little.) I'll probably drop the Flite Charts next year and just use charts on my iPad. Lite seems to have FlightCharts and it seems to be a bit cheaper. But no Jepps NAV data not sure what that means in terms of feature/benefits? Quote
LANCECASPER Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Healthpilot said: Lite seems to have FlightCharts and it seems to be a bit cheaper. But no Jepps NAV data not sure what that means in terms of feature/benefits? No nav data means no ifr approaches and really no ifr lfights. Nav Data alone gets you approaches and the ability to fly ifr. By itself I think it's $299 per year and you're at least legal. You can do plates on a tablet then. Quote
LANCECASPER Posted February 4, 2022 Report Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Danb said: $ 990 It looks like you're getting the US Standard + FliteCharts PilotPak for $990.00 which is everything I get in the United States Standard + FliteCharts OnePak for $799. (It's gone up in price $20 for 2022.) It looks like the OnePak is a better deal, but I could be wrong. The PilotPak may include something you need which I'm not aware of (like JeppView). OnePak also includes a subscription for a Garmin Portable and the Premium upgrade for Garmin Pilot. The packages are confusing.   2 1 Quote
TGreen Posted February 4, 2022 Report Posted February 4, 2022 I do OnePak Standard + Garmin FlightCharts. Quote
Danb Posted February 4, 2022 Report Posted February 4, 2022 Lance I don’t know, i generally don’t price shop or look into other services when I get accustomed to something I just stay with it. Quote
LANCECASPER Posted February 4, 2022 Report Posted February 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Danb said: Lance I don’t know, i generally don’t price shop or look into other services when I get accustomed to something I just stay with it. I think OnePak is newer than PilotPak so it’s easy just to keep renewing without realizing that they have new options 1 Quote
Danb Posted February 4, 2022 Report Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, LANCECASPER said: I think OnePak is newer than PilotPak so it’s easy just to keep renewing without realizing that they have new options Yeah, I got my Bravo in 2006 originally had Garmin Flight charts then Jepps started offering it for the GX so I ordered them never looked back. I do remember way back then it was considerably higher in price. Quote
LANCECASPER Posted February 4, 2022 Report Posted February 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Danb said: Yeah, I got my Bravo in 2006 originally had Garmin Flight charts then Jepps started offering it for the GX so I ordered them never looked back. I do remember way back then it was considerably higher in price. Ok you may need the PilotPak if you have Jepp charts Quote
Healthpilot Posted February 8, 2022 Author Report Posted February 8, 2022 Thank you everyone. It looks like the OnePak+FliteCharts is the better option. I do not need Jepp charts. Quote
PAUL JUNDU Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 On 2/2/2022 at 3:01 AM, Healthpilot said: I have Garmin 1000 in my Cessna 182T but I dont know if I need subscription pack - so all airspaces are updated along with usual charts  Quote
LANCECASPER Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 10 hours ago, PAUL JUNDU said: Â Look for the OnePak if you don't use Jepp Charts Quote
Marc_B Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 Garmin does a terrible job at an apples to apples comparison on this. If you go down the Jepp charts pathway it becomes WAY more complicated. OnePak with Flite charts gives all installed equipment all databases PLUS covers one portable on your subscription. vs PilotPak where you can get Jepp charts but you have to pay extra for a 4seat subscription to have Jepp charts on your portable. I might be interested in a OnePak plus Jep charts if they’d offered it like that. No clue why they don’t. for simplicity, OnePak with or without Flite Charts. Garmin should really simplify the PilotPak…it can be a confusing mess! (not to mention that some equipment you have to purchase a "key" to unlock the ability to use Jepp charts on your equipment ~1-1.5AMU) Quote
dkkim73 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 Agree it is confusing. I just had to look up what I have again: "United States Standard + FliteCharts OnePak" useful since I want the Gov charts in the G1000 as a backup, and also have an Aera. Am trying Garmin Pilot out as there is an upgrade included (it's better than I thought though I've got more used to ForeFlight). I had "Americas" last year, since MT borders Canada. Though, LOL, maybe that will be part of the US subscription soon  There was a customer service person who visited us at Garmin training and answered a bunch of questions. She said it would be easy to just add on a cycle or two for Canada if I needed to travel there, would save money most likely. So it might be worth a call to them about your particular situation; I find them pretty customer-oriented and helpful. HTH D Quote
bigmo Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 On 2/2/2022 at 5:49 PM, LANCECASPER said: No nav data means no ifr approaches and really no ifr lfights. Nav Data alone gets you approaches and the ability to fly ifr. By itself I think it's $299 per year and you're at least legal. You can do plates on a tablet then. I have a different avionics setup, but Jepp is my only option for nav data and charts. I chose this route with a 1x update (not subscription) on charts. Do you G1 guys have this option?  Keeps me legal, and my ‘authoritative’ charts are on my tablet, but still have a functioning chart ‘reference’ on my MFD. It’s a semi affordable option if one is already invested in ForeFlight. Quote
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