Baggage compartment lock cylinder

[A64Pilot]

WhenI flew my Maule down near Mexico I would put a heavy cable on the prop, Maule’s were stolen for drug transport.

‘Many aircraft can have super locks, but the door can often be busted open with just a pry tool very easily. and most aircraft like Cessna for instance there are only about 10 keys that fit the entire fleet, I don’t know if this is true for Mooney or not.

‘When the (D) model Apache was built, they keys were Medeco, at least on the Apache keys what make them very difficult to copy was that the cut parts also had an angle cut in them that a normal key cutting machine couldn’t duplicate

The Attached pic is of an Ah-64 D model master key. Do all Medeco keys have this additional angle cut?

 

[skipswift]

On 7/16/2020 at 2:21 PM, gsxrpilot said:

Just the panel on the inside of the door. It's not difficult to do.

How do you remove the panel without damaging it?

[DCarlton]

5 hours ago, skipswift said:

How do you remove the panel without damaging it?

For my '67F, there are spring clips that are pushed into holes around the outside edge of the panel.  The holes are in the aluminum obviously and the clips are attached to the panel.  I'm no expert but you might have to squeeze each one with needle nose (or slip something under the panel and pry them up gently).  There's a dozen.  See pic of clips.  BTW, Vantage Plane Plastics makes a plastic replacement panel if you do damage it; it takes some trimming and fitting but looks nice and clean when installed.  

[Pinecone]

On 7/20/2020 at 8:23 PM, kortopates said:

The Mooney Door locks are merely Chicago Cabinet locks - a very popular an inexpensive lock available from hardware stores and locksmith. But like said Paul above, we have much better options available to us. I also installed Medeco locks in my door and baggage door. I didn't use the aircarft security guys since as an A&P I know we don't need an STC to do this, just supervision from an approving A&P. You can obtain Medeco locks almost as easily the cabinet locks. Just take in your old locks to any locksmith that's also a Medeco dealer (most are) and they can match it up to a Medeco and lock and even fabricate the metal lever for you. Very easy and very affordable and who knows it might just send a would be thief in a hurry to the plane next to yours with the very easy to pick cabinet locks.  

How much cheaper for a set from a local locksmith versus the Aircraft Security folks?

I figure it might be a good time to do them when the interior is out for the avionics and interior upgrades this winter.

[Fly Boomer]

3 hours ago, skipswift said:

How do you remove the panel without damaging it?

You likely won't get an answer.  This topic is at least two years old, and Paul hasn't been hanging out here for a while.

[DCarlton]

4 hours ago, Pinecone said:

How much cheaper for a set from a local locksmith versus the Aircraft Security folks?

I figure it might be a good time to do them when the interior is out for the avionics and interior upgrades this winter.

Take a look at Aircraft Spruce.  You can find much cheaper ones there but they have to be modified to fit your application.  I used them; they came with an ignition switch set; bent the locking tab in a vice, cut it to length, and ground the edges smooth.  Worked fine.  I don't think they're as nice as the Aircraft Security Mooney Medeco locksets.  I'd probably buy those next time.  

BTW, I added a pic of the panel clips above.  There's a dozen.  You can see what you have to pry or squeeze to remove.  

[EricJ]

5 hours ago, skipswift said:

How do you remove the panel without damaging it?

What model and year is your Mooney?    On mine it's trivial;  remove the small screws around the perimeter and it comes off.

[Pinecone]

16 hours ago, DCarlton said:

Take a look at Aircraft Spruce.  You can find much cheaper ones there but they have to be modified to fit your application.  I used them; they came with an ignition switch set; bent the locking tab in a vice, cut it to length, and ground the edges smooth.  Worked fine.  I don't think they're as nice as the Aircraft Security Mooney Medeco locksets.  I'd probably buy those next time.  

At that price, I will probably just order them and have them done when the interior is out.

[kortopates]

On 9/19/2023 at 9:16 AM, Pinecone said:

How much cheaper for a set from a local locksmith versus the Aircraft Security folks?

I figure it might be a good time to do them when the interior is out for the avionics and interior upgrades this winter.

I took my only locks with tangs down to my local Medeco lock dealer and the tech bent and cut the new tangs to match the old ones as I watched. Worked great. They either didn't charge me extra for that service or it was very small but too long ago to recall precisely. The locks are not expensive.

[kortopates]

On 9/19/2023 at 7:54 AM, skipswift said:

How do you remove the panel without damaging it?

You don't say what your Mooney model is. But Modern Mooney's J & K's on are secured by little upholstery screws through the plastic into the aluminum. Easy to R&R. 

[skipswift]

Can anyone advise on how to remove this door lock cylinder? I can't get a socket around the retention ring because the cam is in the way. Not sure how or if I can remove the cam.

Thanks.

[N201MKTurbo]

1 hour ago, skipswift said:

Can anyone advise on how to remove this door lock cylinder? I can't get a socket around the retention ring because the cam is in the way. Not sure how or if I can remove the cam.

Thanks.

If you are going to replace it, get in there with a Dremel and grind the rivet heads off the tab and pop it off. Otherwise, you will need to get in there with an end wrench or a crows foot. You might need to get a cheap wrench and do some creative bending and grinding.