Peter T Posted April 9, 2018 Report Posted April 9, 2018 Have a complete and perfectly functioning M20 TURBO NORMALIZING kit presently installed on my 1993 M20J. Would be easy to remove and install on your M20J. I would want to swap any stock parts removed from your aircraft to mine. (AFTER MORE RESEARCH IT IS EVIDENT THAT THE STC FOR THIS SYSTEM IS NOT AVAILABLE OR TRANSFERABLE) Quote
KSMooniac Posted April 9, 2018 Report Posted April 9, 2018 Do you mind sharing why you want to remove it?Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk Quote
Peter T Posted April 9, 2018 Author Report Posted April 9, 2018 The system came with the airplane. My home base is at sea level and I hardly ever get above 10,000 ft, so it does not serve as much of an advantage for my needs. Quote
KSMooniac Posted April 10, 2018 Report Posted April 10, 2018 I'd be all over it if I didn't already have one to install on my plane. I'd suggest learning LOP ops if you haven't already and enjoy the greater operational flexibility. You can use it to your advantage at Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk Quote
KSMooniac Posted April 10, 2018 Report Posted April 10, 2018 The worst part of a swap will be the cowl... I'm not sure how interchangeable one cowl is between planes. The mod needs an intercooler hole in front, and new gills on the sides plus paint to match. If the cowl can't be swapped, then you have a hole-filling operation to execute, and then paint. It is worth the effort/cost for the right deal, though!Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk Quote
Peter T Posted April 10, 2018 Author Report Posted April 10, 2018 Yes, for the right price, I would be willing to swap out my lower cowl with everything in place. All that would be required would be to repaint lower cowl for both aircraft. Quote
kmyfm20s Posted April 10, 2018 Report Posted April 10, 2018 If I still had my J I would go for that. Can the STC be transferred? Does the fact that it’s a Canadian sellar and a U.S. buyer make a difference with the FAA as far as the parts? Quote
Peter T Posted April 10, 2018 Author Report Posted April 10, 2018 The STC is transferable.The turbo was installed In the US before the aircraft was imported into Canada. Quote
orionflt Posted April 10, 2018 Report Posted April 10, 2018 other then the added cost of inspecting and maintaining the turbo I do not see a good reason to remove it. I live at sea level but would love to have a turbo just to get higher for longer trips. I definitely would not remove one! Brian 3 Quote
LANCECASPER Posted April 10, 2018 Report Posted April 10, 2018 Have a complete and perfectly functioning M20 TURBO NORMALIZING kit presently installed on my 1993 M20J. Would be easy to remove and install on your M20J. I would want to swap any stock parts removed from your aircraft to mine. Have all paper work and can send you pics. Before you spend money to have it removed, go fly one that isn't turbocharged so you have something to compare it to. Over 30 years I've had a few Mooneys. My first four were turbocharged. My fourth wasn't and it wasn't long before I sold it and got another turbocharged Mooney. Spending money to decrease your performance and capability doesn’t seem to make sense. 6 Quote
Peter T Posted April 10, 2018 Author Report Posted April 10, 2018 I won’t remove the turbo system until I have it sold to someone who is willing to swap their naturally aspirated parts for the turbo system. I am willing to keep it if a good swap does not work out. I did have a 1984 M20J 15 years ago. I was very happy with that and wouldn’t mind going that route again. Quote
M20F-1968 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Posted April 17, 2018 You will not be able to simply swap cowlings. Each respective cowling will need to stay with its own airframe, which means the new turbo owner will be cutting holes and adding side gills, and you will be doing fiberglass work to patch holes. Both will be painting. That is itself is a lot of work. Further, there is some added cost in maintaining the turbo, but it gives you options you would not otherwise have. I would keep it. John Breda Quote
Peter T Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Posted April 17, 2018 Yes John, I’m starting to understand that the lower cowl l should stay with the airplane. Peter Quote
Peter T Posted October 9, 2018 Author Report Posted October 9, 2018 So after doing more research and getting educated by this forum, I realize that the STC for this installation is not transferable nor is it available at this time. Jetdriven (Byron) was especially helpful in sharing the research that he had done on this particular topic. I apologize for not having had complete and accurate information before posting this. In the meantime I have come to appreciate and completely enjoy the M20’s capability and performance. It is a privilege to have access to the accumulative knowledge and experience of this community. 2 Quote
Lear70 Posted October 9, 2018 Report Posted October 9, 2018 Just out of curiosity, who owns the STC on that now? Tornado Alley? Quote
Peter T Posted October 10, 2018 Author Report Posted October 10, 2018 Apparently Mrs. Sandman is the present owner, the widow of the previous owner of the STC Quote
KSMooniac Posted October 10, 2018 Report Posted October 10, 2018 Apparently Mrs. Sandman is the present owner, the widow of the previous owner of the STC Not any longer since she passed way a year or two ago. I think she gifted it to their former mechanic that is also now in prison, so I have no idea where in limbo it might be.Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk Quote
carusoam Posted October 10, 2018 Report Posted October 10, 2018 We have a turbo guy... @tomgo2 He has new parts and knowledge... Best regards, -a- Quote
kris_adams Posted October 10, 2018 Report Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, carusoam said: We have a turbo guy... @tomgo2 He has new parts and knowledge... Tom are you setting up a website? details? I doubt I'm in the market right now but could be prior to paint. @tomgo2 Quote
tomgo2 Posted October 13, 2018 Report Posted October 13, 2018 Hi Everyone. thanks for tagging me to the discussion @carusoam. RAJAY owns the STC for the RAJAY installation for the M20J SA3555WE. We are taking deposits now to be put on a waitlist. We want to have at least 3 orders before we go into production. If you are interested in putting a $1,000 fully-refundable deposit down, please contact sales@rajay.aero for more information. We haven't nailed down the exact cost for the M20J, but we would estimate a purchase price for the kit to be somewhere around $28K plus 50 hours of installation labor. Regards, Tom Quote
amillet Posted January 6, 2020 Report Posted January 6, 2020 On 10/13/2018 at 1:06 PM, tomgo2 said: Hi Everyone. thanks for tagging me to the discussion @carusoam. RAJAY owns the STC for the RAJAY installation for the M20J SA3555WE. We are taking deposits now to be put on a waitlist. We want to have at least 3 orders before we go into production. If you are interested in putting a $1,000 fully-refundable deposit down, please contact sales@rajay.aero for more information. We haven't nailed down the exact cost for the M20J, but we would estimate a purchase price for the kit to be somewhere around $28K plus 50 hours of installation labor. Regards, Tom Did you get the 3 deposits? @tomgo2 Quote
tomgo2 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Posted January 7, 2020 @amillet, We currently have 1 deposit for the M20J. Tom Quote
201Mooniac Posted January 7, 2020 Report Posted January 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, tomgo2 said: @amillet, We currently have 1 deposit for the M20J. Tom Does that kit fit with a LoPresti cowl on the J? Quote
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