Jump to content

Looking for KS179 Trim Servo 065-0052-04

RocketAviator

By RocketAviator
in General Mooney Talk

 Share

Recommended Posts

RocketAviator Mentor

RocketAviator

Posted
Posted (edited)

As the title says... any leads or suggestions appreciated!

Repair or exchange.

im fairly sure the engagement coil or the circuit that drives the coil are what is bad on mine.

Edited by RocketAviator
KSMooniac Grand Master

KSMooniac

Posted
Posted
As the title says... any leads or suggestions appreciated!

Repair or exchange.

im fairly sure the engagement coil or the circuit that drives the coil are what is bad on mine.

Try Bevan-Rabell or Mid-Continent Instruments, both in Wichita. Either can likely repair yours.

 

Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk

 

 

 

Mark89114 Experienced

Mark89114

Posted
Posted

My experience was after an unhappy to be litigated experience with Autopilot Central is that the most economical solution for the motor going bad was only about $1800 for an overhauled up to date mods etc. unit directly from BK..  While I was doing my research on this I did find somebody who overhauled the pittman motors....I think(hope) I saved the link on my ipad.  I will check this evening.  My avionics guy said by the time he would have gone through, tested, repaired, etc everything the overhauled unit was the most economical.  The important thing is he found the problem right away without any shotgunning parts like a certain well regarded repair shop.      

carusoam Grand Master

carusoam

Posted
Posted

Interesting possible resource.... as posted by our KS brother above....

Mid Continent... the instrument people, also service and OH BK servos...

https://www.mcico.com/servos-and-actuators-3

I saw Similar PNs, but not the exact one being discussed here...

Could not find servo info at Bevan-Rabell...  https://www.bevanrabell.com/

PP thoughts only, haven’t oh’d a servo yet...

Best regards,

-a-

KSMooniac Grand Master

KSMooniac

Posted
Posted
Interesting possible resource.... as posted by our KS brother above....
Mid Continent... the instrument people, also service and OH BK servos...
https://www.mcico.com/servos-and-actuators-3
I saw Similar PNs, but not the exact one being discussed here...
Could not find servo info at Bevan-Rabell...  https://www.bevanrabell.com/
PP thoughts only, haven’t oh’d a servo yet...
Best regards,
-a-
B-R doesn't have a comprehensive website, but they have a very capable bench repair shop and are likely less expensive than MCICO. MCICO might have an exchange unit available, though.

Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk

  • Like 1
kortopates Grand Master

kortopates

Posted
Posted

The biggest concern about using Bendix King for such repairs is that they'll require any item brought up to the current mod level in addition to any repairs. But some mod updates can be very expensive. Some years ago I sent them a pitch-trim servo that was behind 3 or 4 mods since it was from an '86 and they wanted  in  $4-5K to repair it largely due one of the mods being several thousand. I eventually went with another salvage unit I found and got satisfactorily  bench tested.  

Mark89114 Experienced

Mark89114

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, kortopates said:

The biggest concern about using Bendix King for such repairs is that they'll require any item brought up to the current mod level in addition to any repairs. But some mod updates can be very expensive. Some years ago I sent them a pitch-trim servo that was behind 3 or 4 mods since it was from an '86 and they wanted  in  $4-5K to repair it largely due one of the mods being several thousand. I eventually went with another salvage unit I found and got satisfactorily  bench tested.  

I am no expert....I was charged $1.8k for an exchanged pitch trim servo from Honeywell, with everything being brought to latest mods.  They replaced the motor and other bits and pieces so someone is getting the motors repaired or new.  I couldn't tell you which.  

 

here is the company that advertises they repair Pittman motors........no idea on legality of using them or their actual capabilities...  http://www.bigwoodselectric.com/

 

carusoam Grand Master

carusoam

Posted
Posted

Interesting page... regarding maintenance of BK servos 177, 178, and 179...

https://www.duncanaviation.aero/intelligence/2013/May/bendix-king-autopilot-100-150-series-servo-maintenance

They have a few pages describing various servo failures related to BK APs...

might be worth comparing to BK...  https://www.duncanaviation.aero/services/components-repairs/

Best regards,

-a-

M20JFlyer Enthusiast

M20JFlyer

Posted
Posted

Rocket Aviator

If as you move forward with your King/Honeywell autopilot and you need to repair a pittman motor

 The servo motor can be repaired with integrity and experienced people .

Just saying if it is the motor the (servo ) that needs attention try  http://www.bigwoodselectric.com/      They repaired mine in 2012 and it has worked perfect for 700 + hours

The gentleman in charge at that time was Zach... his phone # was 701.642.3145.

Let all of us on MS know how you proceed ..because these legacy AP's need affordable people like bigwoods to service our needs 

Don't mess with Texas

N9135W  201 MSE  Houston

 

  • Like 1
RocketAviator Mentor

RocketAviator

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Super thanks to all, I had great support from MDoc here on MS & Alan at Autopilot Central & Mooney Factory in getting documentation to troubleshoot my unit.  After a number of hours found the problem.  Mid Continent quoted me 4500 exchange!  A other shops quoted everywhere starting at 1100 plus parts to 1800 for general repair.... whatever that was suppose to include! 

Alan said he thought they could repair it based on what I told him I had found for a couple hours labor.

Spent most of the day calling everyone I could find or anyone told me they might have one.

Mid Cont was the only one that said they had one for 4500 exchange, they were also the last one to work on this one in 2013!

Motor works fine only issue was with the engage solenoid.

All is well, hope to reinstalling tomorrow.

I sure hope a decent long term reasonable cost AP is close at hand!

Thanks again everyone for your generous assistance.

 

 

  • Like 1
  • 4 months later...
rxj Newbie

rxj

Posted
Posted

I'm interested to buy a KS 179-04 but without an OHE. The unit doesn't need to be working.

Does anyone know of where I might get one?

Rj

 

  • 2 weeks later...
fentho Apprentice

fentho

Posted
Posted
On 3/19/2018 at 9:17 AM, RocketAviator said:

As the title says... any leads or suggestions appreciated!

Repair or exchange.

im fairly sure the engagement coil or the circuit that drives the coil are what is bad on mine.

Try Redbird Electronics - Dallas, Tx  214-337-8958.  Ralph Ryan knows these servos inside & out.

  • 2 years later...

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.