DaV8or Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 On November 16, 2015 at 7:03:46 AM, jetdriven said: Several papers show that a polished metal wing is fastest. A filled, painted wing is next, and an unfilled painted wing is slowest of all. Actually a peeling, unfilled, painted wing is the slowest because. That's what I have. If this were so, I imagine that every competitive racer at Reno would have polished planes, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Whatever aerodynamic advantage polish has, must be pretty marginal. The biggest advantage is the reduction in weight, but even that is marginal. Quote
Wildhorsesracing Posted November 18, 2015 Author Report Posted November 18, 2015 On 10/7/2015, 6:12:02, Hank said: Don't forget to paint the top of the cowling! Assuming that you want to be able to look out the windshield . . . I was thinking the same thing but apparently I sit low enough that the cowling doesn't shine in my eyes. Quote
Shadrach Posted November 18, 2015 Report Posted November 18, 2015 On August 15, 2015 at 10:19:35 AM, aviatoreb said: I have been enchanted with possibly doing the strip job myself at some point, since I saw the seemingly amazing stripping product by accuchem. http://www.tksfluid.com/product/aircraft-paint-stripper One couldn't leave their airplane entirely bare if you have a fiberglass cowl cover as money of us do. I tried 3 separate shops on the east coast to look for a scuff and spray job for the tops of my wings, and no one was willing. I liked my paint scheme, but it is starting to fade and that is most apparent as usual on the tops of wings. It adheres pretty well... I know one that will do it. Quote
aviatoreb Posted November 18, 2015 Report Posted November 18, 2015 On 11/16/2015, 11:01:03, jetdriven said: I'll find links. I like shiny paint I would love to see thanks. I cannot imagine why it would be true, but I am not doubting that someone actually measured the effect. My intuition though says that a beautifully painted smooth airplane would be the same as the same beautifully smoothed polished airplane. I cannot imagine a reason why the skin friction would be different between smooth paint and polish - they seem pretty similar. Quote
Wildhorsesracing Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Posted November 19, 2015 The process of polishing an aircraft does smooth the surface tremendously. I wonder if you would have to polish the paint to smooth it out as much as the bare aluminum is when polished? Quote
Hank Posted November 19, 2015 Report Posted November 19, 2015 The thought of using a clay bar on my Mooney makes my arms tired. Can't just do the top if you're going for speed, got to do the underside of the wings and tail, and the whole belly from spinner to rudder. Just like you're polishing . . . Many, many square feet! 2 Quote
Guest Posted November 19, 2015 Report Posted November 19, 2015 9 hours ago, Wildhorsesracing said: The process of polishing an aircraft does smooth the surface tremendously. I wonder if you would have to polish the paint to smooth it out as much as the bare aluminum is when polished? The fellow with the worlds fastest Piper Cherokee used a process called "smooth wing" whereby he filled all the imperfections in his wing with some form of Bondo, then block sanded it smooth. After painting I'm sure the paint would benefit from the same polishing you've done. Clarence Quote
bradp Posted November 19, 2015 Report Posted November 19, 2015 15 hours ago, Hank said: The thought of using a clay bar on my Mooney makes my arms tired. Can't just do the top if you're going for speed, got to do the underside of the wings and tail, and the whole belly from spinner to rudder. Just like you're polishing . . . Many, many square feet! I did a clay bar on every surface of my J during the first year I had it. Worked on it for a full week. I was sore for probably a month. Looked pretty good when I was done, though. Quote
aviatoreb Posted November 19, 2015 Report Posted November 19, 2015 19 minutes ago, bradp said: I did a clay bar on every surface of my J during the first year I had it. Worked on it for a full week. I was sore for probably a month. Looked pretty good when I was done, though. How long did it last? Quote
bradp Posted November 19, 2015 Report Posted November 19, 2015 Bird was outside at that point so probably about 5-6 months before I wondered why I did it. It was awesome when it was fresh. I'd be willing to do it again now that the plane lives indoors, but it's going in for repaint soon. Thus the motivation is not really there. Quote
Bob_Belville Posted December 4, 2015 Report Posted December 4, 2015 Well, this thread has morphed a little but I was pleased to see the '64 M20E in the ramp at KMQY today. Registration has it as a Cocoa Florida plane. 4 Quote
Wildhorsesracing Posted January 8, 2016 Author Report Posted January 8, 2016 Now that my Mooney is polished she has no problem hanging with my "fast crowd". 2 Quote
kmyfm20s Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 The Mooney might need a black and red stripe! 1 Quote
tpapilot Posted January 9, 2016 Report Posted January 9, 2016 I was talking with another Mooney driver - 30 year owner - at my home airport when this blog came up, first time he had heard of it - another to join the ranks? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 3 Quote
Wildhorsesracing Posted January 31, 2016 Author Report Posted January 31, 2016 Flew to KEXX today to watch my daughter take her checkride - had a chance to take some nice pics of the polished Mooney Pit. 1 Quote
Wildhorsesracing Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Posted February 9, 2016 Looking forward to warmer weather when we can add stripes, etc... 1 Quote
Hank Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 Looking good! Do you have a striping scheme in mind? Quote
kpaul Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 9 hours ago, Wildhorsesracing said: Looking forward to warmer weather when we can add stripes, etc... So is that brand C bashful sitting next to a plane that can run circles around it, or did it get hijacked (flaps full down)? 1 Quote
Wildhorsesracing Posted February 18, 2016 Author Report Posted February 18, 2016 On 2/9/2016 at 9:34 PM, Hank said: Looking good! Do you have a striping scheme in mind? Yes, going to add some green and white stripes on the fuselage, and along the front of the flying surfaces. Did some flying today to enjoy the nice weather. Quote
Hank Posted February 18, 2016 Report Posted February 18, 2016 I'll bet on a sunny day, you have the most visible plane at the airport! 1 Quote
carusoam Posted February 18, 2016 Report Posted February 18, 2016 Flying in formation is going to require cloud cover... The sun is reflecting everywhere off that mirror ball! Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
Hank Posted February 18, 2016 Report Posted February 18, 2016 1 minute ago, carusoam said: Flying in formation is going to require cloud cover... The sun is reflecting everywhere off that mirror ball! Best regards, -a- Nah, he'll be fine. He just won't get to fly lead. Tail-end Charlie won't accidentally blind his fellow pilots. Did I mention in the last group, too? 1 Quote
Wildhorsesracing Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Posted April 17, 2016 I found the doppelgänger for my Mooney today - a pair of 33U's... Quote
Wildhorsesracing Posted June 16, 2016 Author Report Posted June 16, 2016 The Polished Mooney has to share my hangar with my latest acquisition... 4 Quote
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