N3228F salvage

[orionflt]

I was just surfing the net and ran across this M20E being sold for salvage, appearently the pilot ran off the runway and hit a sign damaging the wing and causing a prop strike. Looking at it it appears to be a vintage E with no mods and a high time engine. The damage looks substantial enough that it will not be an economical repair. I looked to see if I could find anything about the incident but there was nothing in the databases,and I have no idea when it happened. I guess just wondering if this was a mooney space bird and if anyone knew the story.

[rainman]

I wish there was a salvage yard for all those Mooneys to go to so we'd have a place to get weird little parts. Hopefully an MSC will buy it and break it down for parts.

[larryb]

Any idea on what a winning bid on these sorts of salvages would be?

[Matt Michael]

2 months ago I bid on an early 70s E that was geared-up here in Ames Iowa.  It had a 250hr factory reman, prop destroyed, step mount tweeked, nose gear rod bent, a few scrapes but otherwise pretty good shape.  The plane is in very good condition, nice interior and paint, GPS but not a 430. Some questions about crud in fuel (clogged injector linked to the accident).   It went for $20K.  I missed it by $1500.  Still sitting in the hangar next to mine.

[orionflt]

20k is a lot for a restoration project with older avionics, must have been some one like wentworth or Dawson that bought it

[KSMooniac]

LASAR has a fairly substantial inventory of salvage planes/parts.  I do not know how they've acquired their collection, though.  Certainly some of the salvage yards buy/bid on these auctions, but when calling around years ago it seems none of the major yards have many Mooney parts!  

 

I watch the salvage listings mainly out of curiosity, but I did purchase my salvage J in Oct 2012.  It has been a lot of work, but worthwhile for my goals in acquiring spares and upgrades for my '77 J.  There isn't a huge market for Mooney parts aside from the easily damaged things like control surfaces and some gear parts, and a few "upgrade" parts like J cowls, late model seats and yokes, etc.  In my observation over the last couple of years, it is rare to find a good cowl or ailerons that aren't damaged by any event that condemns a plane.  Of course modern avionics are desirable and usually un-damaged unless there was a flood.  

[nels]

I've been curious what the salvage planes go for. It appears they bring better money than they should considering the price of flying airplanes these days. Why would you pay 20k for a geared up E with a prop strike when you probably could have bought the plane for 30K before the damage occurred? It is such a crap shoot! I sure learned the hard way.

[Matt Michael]

No way you could fave gotten that plane for $30k. I've looked at 8 M20s on the market in the last few months. That E was in the top 3 and undamaged would have been a steal at $40K

[moodychief]

Here's the only info I could find. No word about the last incident. Looks like the last owner had it for several years.

Aircraft Details

Use the query results with caution

Over time registration numbers are assigned to different aircraft and diverse data stores with inconsistent data are being joined

N Number: 3228F

Last Action Date 2013-05-10

Airworthiness Date 1967-04-25 Expiration Date 2016-10-31

Manufacturer_Name MOONEY Model Name M20E

Registrant Name VERSCHNEIDER MARK L Street PO BOX 642

Registrant City BOONVILLE Registrant State NY

Registrant Zip Code 133090642 Country UNITED STATES

Region Eastern Registrant Type Individual

Fract Owner Certificate Issue Date 1999-03-09

Status N-Number Assigned and Registered

Serial Number 670021 Aircraft Type Fixed wing single engine

Mode S Code 50674464 Year Mfr 1967

Aircraft Category Land Builder Certification Type Certificated

Number Engines 1 Number Seats 4

Aircraft Weight CLASS 1 Aircraft Cruising Speed 127

Airworthiness Classification Standard Approved Operation Codes Normal

Engine Manufacturer LYCOMING

Engine Model Name I0360 SER Engine Type Reciprocating

Engine Horsepower/Thrust 0 Fuel Consumed 0.00

------- History 1 -------

Last Action Date 2010-11-19

Registrant Name VERSCHNEIDER MARK L Street PO BOX 642

Registrant City BOONVILLE Registrant State NY

Registrant Zip Code 133090642 Country UNITED STATES

Region Eastern Registrant Type Individual

Fract Owner Certificate Issue Date 1999-03-09

Status First Notice for Registration Renewal

------- History 2 -------

Last Action Date 2010-10-12

Registrant Name VERSCHNEIDER MARK L Street PO BOX 642

Registrant City BOONVILLE Registrant State NY

Registrant Zip Code 13309-0642 Country UNITED STATES

Region Eastern Registrant Type Individual

Fract Owner Certificate Issue Date 1999-03-09

Status N-Number Assigned and Registered

------- History 3 -------

Last Action Date 2008-05-07

Registrant Name VERSCHNEIDER MARK L Street PO BOX 642

Registrant City BOONVILLE Registrant State NY

Registrant Zip Code 13309-0642 Country UNITED STATES

Region Eastern Registrant Type Individual

Fract Owner Certificate Issue Date 1999-03-09

Status First Notice for Re- Registration/Renewal

------- History 4 -------

Last Action Date 2007-04-26

Registrant Name VERSCHNEIDER MARK L Street 5204 PROSPERITY VIEW DR

Registrant City CHARLOTTE Registrant State NC

Registrant Zip Code 28269-1572 Country UNITED STATES

Region Eastern Registrant Type Individual

Fract Owner Certificate Issue Date 1999-03-09

Status The Triennial Aircraft Registration form was mailed and has not been returned by the Post Office

------- History 5 -------

Last Action Date 2005-03-15

Registrant Name VERSCHNEIDER MARK L Street 5010 ARDENWOODS DR

Registrant City CHARLOTTE Registrant State NC

Registrant Zip Code 28215-9778 Country UNITED STATES

Region Southern Registrant Type Individual

Fract Owner Certificate Issue Date 1999-03-09

Status The Triennial Aircraft Registration form was mailed and has not been returned by the Post Office

------- History 6 -------

Last Action Date 2002-03-19

Registrant Name VERSCHNEIDER MARK L Street 5010 ARDENWOODS DR

Registrant City CHARLOTTE Registrant State NC

Registrant Zip Code 28215-9778 Country UNITED STATES

Region Southern Registrant Type Individual

Fract Owner Certificate Issue Date 1999-03-09

Status The Triennial Aircraft Registration form was mailed and has not been returned by the Post Office

------- History 7 -------

Last Action Date 1999-03-09

Registrant Name VERSCHNEIDER MARK L Street 5010 ARDENWOODS DR

Registrant City CHARLOTTE Registrant State NC

Registrant Zip Code 28215-9778 Country UNITED STATES

Region Southern Registrant Type Individual

Fract Owner Certificate Issue Date 1999-03-09

Status N-Number assigned

***** No Deregistered Data Found *****

***** No Reserved Data Found *****

***** No FAA Accidents/Incidents Found *****

***** No NTBS Accidents Found *****

------- NTBS Pre 1982 Accident 1 -------

Qccurrence Date 1967-11-06 Aircraft Make MOONEY

Aircraft Model M20E Aircraft Serial Number

Damage SUBSTANTIAL Accident Location BANNER,ILL

Occurrences BIRD STRIKE Phase of Flight IN FLIGHT - NORMAL CRUISE

Causes BIRD COLLISION Narrative DUCK STRUCK RIGHT WING. NO FURTHER DAMAGE ON LANDING.

------- SDR 1 -------

Date Of Report 1975-04-17 Operator Control Number Z197510700034

Date Of Occurrence Aircraft Registration 3228F

Aircraft Manufacturer MOONEY Aircraft Group Code M20

Aircraft Manufacturer Model M20E Aircraft Make Model Sequence 5870212

Air Carrier Name Unknown Air Carrier Operation Code

Operation Type Stage Of Operation INSP/MAINT

Severity Factor OVER 24 MO Air Transport Association Code Propeller Hub Section

Precautionary Procedures NONE Nature Of Condition OTHER

Segment AIRFRAME Descriptive Name Of Part SPINNER

Defective Location On Aircraft BLADE CUTOUT Failed Part Condition BROKEN

Part Total Time 46 Part Total Time Since Overhaul 46

Component Manufacturer Component Manufacturer Model

Component Manufacturer Number Manufacturer Part Number C19043

Ata Code

Remarks SPINNER DOME BROKEN AROUND FROM ONE BLADE CUT OUT TO OTHER.

[Marauder]

I would just track down the last owner and talk to him. When do you remember a present or past Mooney owner not wanting to talk about their Mooney?

[orionflt]

I saw all that info, just thought the owner may be on mooney space, or someone here might know him.

[Alan Fox]

It is very rare that the salvage bids are worth repairing , generally the only parts that move quickly are the generic parts that are not make / model specific......  Most of the Mooney specific parts from the last Mooney I parted were sold to Lasar , or are still in my possession ,   That being said , I stilled pulled over 30K from a 63 C model , (corrosion on wing spar)   ......... 

[orionflt]

It is very rare that the salvage bids are worth repairing , generally the only parts that move quickly are the generic parts that are not make / model specific......  Most of the Mooney specific parts from the last Mooney I parted were sold to Lasar , or are still in my possession ,   That being said , I stilled pulled over 30K from a 63 C model , (corrosion on wing spar)   .........

Alan,

What was the N number on the 63 with spar corrosion?

[Alan Fox]

I dont remember but the cabin is still in my parking lot at my gas station....