Bob_Belville

Dave, pitch to neutral elevator force before gear/flaps. At a target speed? The gear position doesn't affect pitch much does it?

Alan, that looks like a real bargain for someone looking for a nice project with sound bones.

I seem to fly though through clouds/rain every time I go somewhere. Does that count?

Hey George, it wan't me you offended... 'splain it to Mike!

Bring it to KMRN next time. Lynn will take real good care of you!

Clarence, I agree but I will bet that when Donald K. gets back on this thread he will caution that he spends time making sure his transitioning clients feel what happens when you pour the coals to the higher HP models. I have a few hours in a PA24-400. I don't think I flew it on go around like I did a PA28-140.

I have more than 2500 hours in M20Es. For folks like me it is not so much becoming proficient as it is keeping those skills and safe procedures from getting rusty and keeping up with changes in our operating environment.

Sure. Easy peasy. No need to think about, just do what feels right. Hey Clem, watch this!

I don't find your experience to be true for my experience with Es. @ 80-85 kias, a Mooney should climb better with the gear out than with full flaps deployed. Of course on your J you don't have to choose, you can cycle the gear switch and be doing other stuff with your right arm while that little motor is raising the gear.

Yup. Just like that. I did the same thing with Mike Elliott last fall at Mooney Summit.

I suppose I raise the gear fast enough to satisfy a pit crew chief but I still don't want to be holding forward pressure on the yoke while swing the JBar back and down. And remember, Vfe is lower than Vy for our birds. ISTM the flaps need to get to PO position before the gear. And retracting partial flaps is not something to be doing with hydraulic flap during a balked landing. IMO

Try reaching Mike Elliott who is active here and listed in Mooney Flyer Tarpon Springs FL. (CFII) Master CFI. 317-371-4161, mike@aviating.com . Quality instrument & commercial instruction, transition training, ownership assistance, plane ferrying. Mooney: 1600; Instruction: 600

Don, for our older models sporting manual gear, manual pitch trim, and hydraulic (manual) flaps and 180-200 hp, I think a somewhat different sequence is preferable. Since the left hand is completely occupied dealing with pitch/AOA/IAS the right hand has to choose between throttle, trim wheel, Johnson bar, and flaps - only one of which can be touched at a time. (The right foot is busy holding hard right rudder.) In my mind the gear has to wait until the plane has been trimmed to at least Vx, preferably Vy without flaps. That requires holding the nose down by force, first to allow acceleration to Vy, dumping flaps, while re-trimming the pressure off the yoke. I do not ever want to be swinging the Johnson Bar while I'm holding a lot of pressure on the yoke. Under normal loads and density altitudes, a vintage Mooney will easily climb to pattern altitude with the gear down. Drag is not such a big issue at Vx or Vy.

It has been nearly 50 years since I trained in C150s but I believe I remember that those little planes had a gust lock that was a pin (actually a rod with a metal "remove before flight" panel) that went through the yoke shaft and a shoulder on the lower panel and stabilized both the elevator and the ailerons. But the C150's controls had no resistance when the plane was on the ground and it took very little wind to move them up and down. Our Mooneys are very, very different and I will again argue that Jury-rigged control locks are as likely to cause damage as they are to prevent it.

Dave's kidding. Read his previous "contributions" to this thread.

Did she land in the grass?

ADS-B out/in is supposed show Mode C transponders as well as ADS-B equipped aircraft. I see traffic that has id info and traffic that does not. ???

Don't talk crazy talk.

Is there some documentation that that technology displays traffic that I would not see with my GDL88/GTN750 set up? I know what I see but I have no way of knowing what I don't see.

http://sarasotaavionics.com/avionics/lynx-ngt9000 And that is the equivalent of the TCAS units like the GTS855 TCAS that sells for over 20 AMUs?

What TCAS equipment do you have?

That's "progressive" (taxiing), She'll watch you and give you one turn at a time.

There's a previous thread on this...

A stick between your legs seem better.Richard Simile shared a video on FB this week of Svetlana Kapanina who can handle a stick:

David, please make contact with me or others coming in the Mooney Caravan. We arrive Sunday morning and will all be together in the North Forty. We'll be around the Mooney and MAPA spaces and helping a little with Jolie's Ambassadors and Mooney Girl efforts. Nancy and I are not camping!