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But it's definitely a Unicorn. No other 2005 Ovation that I know of has retro-fitted WAAS and a GFC700 autopilot. Those two items alone would cost $100,000 to retro-fit. Plus O2, TKS, DME, WX-500 and SkyWatch Active Traffic. (Mooney didn't start putting in the GFC-700 into Ovations until late 2007-ish. Find another one like it and price it out.

The Fury already has Autoland

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If he would provide you with pictures, the example to look at would be @M20F-1968's F model with Turbo.

I agree 100%. Even just the wiring, a lot of which is in the belly - the canon plugs weren't designed to be submerged in water. You would be fighting electrical gremlins for years trying to bring this one back to life.

Aviation parts and supplies have risen far more than what inflation has. Add to that the labor shortage in this industry. Hawk and all other shops with labor constraints can only paint so many airplanes a year. They still have to cover their overhead. Personally I think that during many downturns over the years in the economy, since people stop spending on recreational vehicles first, aviation suffered in times past from over-supply and under-demand, so pricing was little lower than people would have paid 7 years ago. Especially when you consider that automotive service shops charge more per hour than many aviation service shops. Work on motorhomes is considerably more expensive than on airplanes. The demand on paint, avionics, new engines has gone up a lot during the past 7 years. Yet some shops have still gone out of business. The owners of some shops have retired. Supply, the availability of shops to go to, has gone down. I believe a lot of the remaining shops have used everything that's happened to examine their pricing and adjust it to where they feel it needs to be and what the market will bear. If they are backed up many months at that pricing, the market is saying it's not too high. I'm guessing when demand comes down, which it eventually will, then pricing will follow, since it's a relatively small market. Do I like the high prices? No, but I'm not surprised, since the law of supply and demand has always applied, even though it may lag a little. One other note, since the price of airplanes has gone up, the value people see in their airplanes, and their willingness to put money into them has gone up also. If someone owned a $100,000 airplane a few years ago they may cringe at a $15,000 paint job but if they really wanted it, they did it. Fast Forward a few years and a subsequent owner who paid $200,000 for that same airplane might not cringe to think of paying $25,000 for the same paint job. ( Same thing applies to panels, interiors, etc.)

@tomgo2 owns the STC for it

There’s a tinted shade on my window https://www.justplanetint.com/collections/aircraft-kits/products/mooney-plane-tint-kits

I have seen the 149 NL/EC (Extended Crank) starters used on big Lycomings, like the 540 in the Bravo. I don’t know if the size is the same as the 149 NL. I can’t find the size specs on Skytec’s website. The EC might be too big for the cramped quarters in the J model engine area. Side by side with your old starter, how do they compare?

The M20M (named TLS and then TLS Bravo and then Bravo) had an older style interior from 1989 starting serial numbers 27-0001 to 27-0180, 182 & 183 ending in 1994. Royalite was used for the interior panels, which eventually yellows and becomes brittle. David, your M20M (N511HG) is serial number 170 so you had this early interior. (Over the years I owned serial numbers, 007, 0150 and 0209, so the early two numbers I owned had it also.) Then the new fiberglass interior covered with Ultraleather was introduced with the Ovation in 1994, so all Ovations had it. Around that point all Bravos got the identical interior to the Ovation, starting with M20M serial numbers 0181, 0184-350. In 1996 the mid-body (J) got the new style interior and when they re-introduced the K in 1997-98, it got the new style interior. All Eagles had that interior and all Acclaims have had that style interior. So all long body Mooneys from some point during the 1994 model year have had the new interior and all mid body Mooneys from 1996 on have it.. That style interior is worth its weight in gold. It is quieter, less vibration related noises, much more durable - just a much higher quality, higher-end product. There is no comparison. It does add a little weight, but I would gladly take a very small weight penalty for this interior and all of the benefits. When a Mooney with this interior is salvaged, the interior panels and headliner are usually the first things that sell off of the airplane. I have heard that there is a waiting list a BAS sales for this interior. When @M20F-1968 (John Breda) made an M20F better than new, he took an Ovation salvage interior and modified it to fit his F model. The closest thing to the new style interior is having Aero Comfort repair the Royalite pieces and cover them with Ultraleather. Years later they still look like new. It’s one of the few things that adds value very close to dollar for dollar on what you spend. Having been around this for over 30 years now I’ve never seen any other interiors hold up as well.

If I remember correctly I put it at the bottom and ran the black hose to it. I don’t remember if we drilled a hole or not. It wouldn’t have been a big deal to do that though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I did one on my previous airplane 4 years ago and ran it up under the armrest Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I've had a couple of JPI 930's installed over the years. At any shop that does them regularly, it's +/- 40 hours labor. That's the legitimate number of hours that keeps coming up on Mooneyspace. There are deals from time to time that pop up when you aren't in a hurry. People are taking perfectly good pieces of equipment out of panels. People are crashing airplanes. Hurricanes and tornadoes are causing hangars to collapse on airframes. The last 930 I did, I bought one that was coming out of an airplane and all-in including labor and everything ended up being $6500. (Another amazing good fortune on that one was that when I sent it to JPI to have them re-configure for my airplane, they somehow shipped mine to Southeast Asia. So they ended up sending me a brand new unit with brand new sensors for my trouble, and didn't charge anything for the reconfiguring . . . oh and shipped it to me overnight free. I was expecting to have $7500 all-in into a used one, and ended up having $6500 total installed into a brand new unit.) Admittedly you aren't going to see that every day, but I'm confident since I've used the same shop for years, that with patience I could get one all-in installed for considerably less than $10,000. I would much rather do that than spend $6000 on a band-aid, which is what Radiant was charging ten years ago, to just kick the can down the road. Be on the lookout and assemble the pieces ahead of time so that before it gives out, you're ready. If you decide to pull it before it goes out it's worth something to someone else trying to nurse theirs along. If you wait until it's kaput then it's worth zero.

There have been times when they have and times when they haven't repaired them. I understand that they may still repair some Moritz gauges for Cirrus airplanes. However in the times that they claim that they are repairing any Moritz gauges, ask them how much they charge. It will make a new monitoring solution seem like a bargain.

Are all of our Mooney owners and Mooneys OK in Florida?

Better yet, if you have a GTX345 run the Active into the 345 and the 345 will blend the traffic and show both, without showing two targets for one airplane. Active will show every airplane with a transponder, even if they don't have ads-b out.

Since you have the GMX200 the mute function may be on there - the volume is selectable on the GMX200. https://static.garmin.com/pumac/190-00607-02_D.pdf p.36

I don't see a mute option on the GNS interface but setting the volume very low wouldn't be quite so irritating and distracting.

Sorry I was just going by the info on Flight Aware

So you're trying to get your airplane out so it doesn't get damaged by the Hurricane . . . . https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hurricane-milton-plane-crash-tampa-b2626040.html It looks like it was based at Albert Whitted (KSPG) - downtown St. Pete (N4044R) https://archive.liveatc.net/kspg/KSPG3-Gnd-Twr-Oct-08-2024-1430Z.mp3 Starts @ 12:43, clear for T/O around 16:30 Tower looking for N4044R at 18:35, still calling out at 20:40 and beyond, 26:15 Coast Guard calls

That's not inexplicable. Your fuel flow is way too low if you're going to use the STC that allows 2700 rpm

Not sure if this would be legal, but the "traffic" alert now must go into an unswitched port in your audio panel . It shouldn't be much to move it to an unused switched port (like the ADF) that you could turn off and on when you wanted.

That unit accepts a mute button. An avionics shop should be able to run a wire from the remote unit to a mute switch. The 9900 isn't supported anymore by Avidyne so I'd be cautious on how much money I would invest in it.

Is there a button somewhere on the yoke that mutes it? Your POH should have a flight supplement section that has a few pages on every add-on in your airplane. it should be explained there.