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I like it, that’s a nice panel. I think if i find a project m20F this is probably the route i would take. For the price is not bad, I think is just up the person the budget.

I don’t know if that’s correct, I could be wrong here but I think in the video he posted he said that all that’s left is for the autopilot to be certified ( not holding my breath for this year or next ) and to plug in the servos In and the controller and that’s it, that means the wiring is already in place just probably missing what ever brackets are needed for the servos and that’s it, If that’s the case and the only pricing that comes close is the Bonanza 3 axis option that’s 5k for parts or less and what ever labor is. I think one of the things that made his install so expensive is that he wanted that second 10 inch on the right side if not I don’t think that install complete would have being more than the 35k-40k range. (Just guessing) Another thing is that this is new to some shops and that means you paying for the techs to learn and that’s not good so taking it to a shop with experience is a must or the labor will skyrocket. If that was my money i would have taking that job to someone with experience, I think saints aviation down in Florida is one place, the name comes up a lot when it comes to this install.

Wouldn’t an oil analysis catch something like this? Or the beginning of it? Just asking out of curiosity.

Thank you for this, It’s something i have being thinking about.

This whole thing reminded me of this video but with a better ending:

Congratulations, my little princess is going to be one soon, looking forward to taking her up probably in a few months.

Congratulations and enjoy it.

I live in Bogota NJ and my mom in the Bronx NY, it’s being 4 weeks without fever. The lady that passed away that’s related to my family resided in the Bronx as well, We all suspect heart attack because she had a previous stroke years ago. As for my friends mother she lived in northern Manhattan right at the norther most tip near the Columbia university sports complex and she passed April 2nd. I so hope you are wrong about dealing with this pass 2020

I see a lot of number and statistics to emphasis what going on but the number don’t hit as hard as the reality, we had a death in the family this pass Friday (not covid 19 related we think) the lady passed away at night and after the ambulance came one of the tech advices us to not wait and start looking now for a funeral home. We have being looking thru every borough in NY and have yet to find a funeral home who is willing to take the lady for a least a cremation. They are all full and at least a month maybe more wait list after the body is released by the coroner just for a cremation, this is not made up its real and be thankful if it has not hit as hard in your part of the country. My mom and I think we had it, not able to get tested at the time. She is in the Bronx NY and I am in NJ, She developed breathing problems after a few days and thank God she fought what ever it was off and I was laid out (I am 41 years old) and lost almost 15lbs after one week fighting the fever, body aches and lack of appetite. my coworkers wife spend 3 weeks with 103 fever before it finally broke And I don’t want to think what she went thru. My friends mother was not so lucky, she had it and lasted 3 weeks and passed away, my sister works for JetBlue and her coworker a flight attendant died after 3 weeks he was 28 years old. At Newark Airport we have lost 2 coworkers that we know off so far and are confirmed cases of covid 19. Not everyone is reporting in under a crazy schedule where won’t have too many people together so not everyone is accounted for as of yet. This things spreads fast so take it seriously and listen not to the politicians but the medical community. For me I can’t wait for 2020 to be done.

Thank you for the great suggestions, I will definitely implement them.

I am looking for a plane and the first thing my wife ask is " are we getting the one with the parachute " statistics are one thing but the flying public who are not as informed the chute matters, That's why the cirrus are selling like crazy, the perception or not of added safety. My search for my perfect plan continues with wife looking over my shoulder and hoping for the one with the parachute.

Congrats on the purchase

Rest In Peace and my condolences to the pilots family.

Second that, Sheetmetal work is sheetmetal work as long as the tech fallows the procedures set by the manufacturer. But the name of who did it does matter in resale but I for one would not pass on it as long as everything check out.

Skates I think that in ideal world We could talk and share all our believes when it comes to politics, religion and sexuality but the reality is as you well stated that you run the risk of being taken to far by some individuals and maybe that’s what happen with Piloto ( I don’t know I don’t think I was here or saw what he posted ). I rather be here and be informed and entertained by all of you and share in the love you guys have for aviation than run the risk of ruining what we have, I have seen it turn down right toxic and hateful and don’t wish to see that here. Don't open Pandora’s box we have more to lose than to gain.

I saw second this, well said.

Dated 2010 and updated 2016. https://www.planeandpilotmag.com/article/fadec-comes-of-age/#.XKq2sIwpChA ”Teledyne Continental Motors (TCM) has been a major pioneer of FADEC technology, and the TCM system brings a level of simplicity to the cockpit that many pilots have never experienced. The mixture and prop controls go away, and the engine is managed by an electronic control unit (ECU). The pilot commands power with a single lever, similar to most turbine engines. TCM’s FADEC system is one of the first to be brought to a modern production aircraft. TCM has designed and adapted a FADEC for engines from the bottom to the top of the company’s piston product line, the IO-240, IO-360 and IO-550 powerplants. (The recently introduced Cessna Skycatcher’s O-200D is excluded because it’s carbureted.) The computerized system controls every engine parameter to optimize performance and efficiency.” ”Continental estimates the cost for retrofitting a FADEC system will be between $2,500 and $7,500, depending on engine and aircraft type.” I bet you that if Continental was thinking about doing this lycoming is not far behind or maybe ahead. I think I am going to be cooking hat in the next 4-5 years if continental still at it.

Do you agree that is the last year or two speciallly you have seen a lot of movement in the avionics field since the change in certification requirements? when did garmin put out the G3x for experimental aircraft? the earliest article I see referring to it was 2014 by avweb. And G3x comes with engine monitoring as an option, just saying that continental or lycoming or a 3rd party might be not to far from coming up with a ga fadec first. the sensors already exist all that is missing is the computer and servos for it. who knows is all I am saying, I have seen what commercial avaition has available and to me many of those systems and technology in avaiton is moving faster than I can remember. I went from working 737-300 to 757 for some 20 years and then 777s in the last 10 years and was like wow that different and now if you could only see what they have done with the 787s and Airbus neo. Boeing and Airbus keep pushing for new technologies for aircrafts and I think ga might see the win fault eventually specially now with the way certification seems to be moving things faster from the experimental aviation to cerification. I might be asking you in 4 to 5 years how do you like your hat? well done with bbq or rare.

That technology is not that far off, the new experimental sling uses a fadec system and seeing all this garmin , beindix and true track all the shift in Avionics’s to more affordable to upgrades and installs it hopefully won’t be long before we see a certify version. I am in aviation as a career in the commercial side and the difference that a property working fadec system provides is mind blowing, can you imagen not running the risk to cook any cylinders like ever under almost any condition, having turbos last maybe twice as long as they do now because they are not over work or work more efficiently, engines last even longer with less wear and tear. You as the pilot fly the plane and engines computer will protect the engine and help alert of anything you might miss, the amount of money a system like this would safe in the long run out weight almost any charge it would cost to instal. For one I can’t wait to see a certify fadec system in not just a Mooney but in general aviation, it would become the new first upgrade before anything else, because having a nice avionics package means nothing if you unwillingly kill or damage the engine and most importantly there would no more guessing of what’s the right way or wrong way, it would all be preset by the people who know and design the engines but that is just my 2 cents. here is the link to the sling and how it performed over at big bear.

I saw this and though you guys might be interested.

Wow, that’s something very good for the avionics market I would hope.

I wish I could do the same but we are happily expecting our first child and although financially everything says I could do it I rather wait and do my ppl and see what comes because life has a way changing your plans. Besides the baby I have yet to really defined my mission that’s why I came to this site to be more informed, but Kermit the frog (the first thing out the wifes mouth after she saw that m20F) would have being cheap enough to jump into and I do have my A/P so I could have done some of the routine maintenance on it until I learn more about the Mooney and it’s systems and quirks, do a few owner assisted annuals to really get in there and see.

Hey if you do the research and that’s what you want, God bless and enjoy but do the research.

Maybe a dumb question but I am new to Mooney’s but just wondering if this is very common on the 231? Or Mooney in general?

Same boat, first baby on the way but I will try to finish it.