PJClark

Heads up: F-15 QAs (Qatar) are doing aircrew training on the civilian side of KBLV. I'd definitely call ahead to see if they even have ramp space available.

Amen! not to say money was NO object, but this is precisely what I did. I have a $225k airplane but it's a 2019 Mooney 252/305 Rocket. I'll be 62 this year, I have 3000 hours in "fast iron" in the Air Force, about 150 in Mooneys, and I and my Rocket are insured for $2,100/year. I saw about a $30 increase last July for my second year of ownership. It's a ton of bang for the buck, and it's outright, outrageous FUN!

I don't think so. The G3X has a standalone GPS that's good for only VFR navigation. I'm certain it's using that antenna. You can choose the internal GPS for use as the Nav source, but of course 99% of the time or more everyone is gonna just use the certified GPS(s) in the panel

My G3X antenna sits in the pilot's side corner between the dash and the windscreen, attached to nothing at all. Just sits there. And works just dandy.

Not at all. To clarify though: I didn't do the complete cabin. I had the seats rebuilt from the frames up, covered in leather, and identical side trim panels done in the same leather. I also had the dash board recovered in UltraLeather, all by Aero Comfort. their 2019 price list is attached here, If you send a note to Hector at Aero Comfort and ask for the 2021 equivalent he'll probably send it to you. For what I did you can find the prices on the file here: $6800 total. my front seats have the comfort foam option and I did headrest embroidery so pick that from the list. I did not do carpet, all the interior panels, or headliner. let me know if that doesn't answer the whole question. PJ

Did you buy flush mounts for G5 and JPI or did shop fabricate it? If latter, why not flush mount the GFC 507 controller? No I bought nothing, shop did it all.

That's plain nuts. My G3X installed was $13,500. G5 backup installed $3500. EIS installed should not exceed $6000. New panel $2800. $25k maximum!

Not sure...but I thinkmI saw a pic late last year od a DMax panel with 2 10.6 G3x's and no G5. You'd have to confirm somehow

I guess I forgot the punch line in the "why" post. If you still have to have a G5 backup, EIS plus the added 7" G3X was going to be about $3500 more than the EDM 900.

Sure. Before I bought the airplane in May 2019 I'd gotten checked out in the SR22 with the Avidyne system (hoping renting would scratch the itch...didn't). On that system if I wanted to see all the engine info it was a knob twist a few clicks on the MFD to get the Engine Page. there was no way to see all the engine info at once AND have the Map displayed. I think EIS is still that way, which may be illustrated by @Davidv's panel pic above. He put in a 7" G3x to the right and he has it on the Engine page. If he did NOT have the 7", he's have to use the PFD side of his 10.6", and a twist of the large right knob, to display that page instead of the map. Now, here's the rub: At the TIME in 2019, a 7" G3X could not be used as the backup for a 10.6" G3X. IF it had been able to, and if I had thus NOT needed a G5 backup, the price would have been about even and I'd have gone with a 10.6/7" dual screen with G3x's instead of the EDM900. But at the time it could not. I think it now CAN be, and it would be a push in cost. Bottom line: I want to always have the engine data present in all its glory, best route there for me at the time was EDM 900.

Yes everything was done in a single go. Everything old/original is gone and the only thing still powered by vacuum are the speed brakes.

Example with JPI EDM 900

Huh. There you have it.

Mine does the same. Can't be right, hoping to discover that AGL can fix it at annual

Brilliant. Post a pic of your G3X panel and sensor when you've got it done!

NOT. My panel was $2810 including the blank on copilot side, my choice of powdercoat color and texture

My actual cost at AATG, parts, installed, flown away complete: G3X touch 10.6" $13,500 GFC500 2 axis $10,742 Pitch trim installed: $3011 G5 backup installed: $3253 Total $30,496 Reading it right off the quote and I paid not a dime more. Not shown above was a GTN750, GTX345R, EDM900 Primary, all installed at the same time. Paid exactly the quoted price for all.

Very nice. If you're not wedded to those bullet leds these are BRIGHT

I can read my EDM 900 just fine

Totally off topic...but my Rocket runs about 36

Aero Lites PAR 36 landing and taxi.

I do, and I was surprised to learn here on MS sometime last summer that they are at station 71 whereas the mains are around 48. I have yet to load more than 5 gal each in the outboards deliberately after pumping 37.5 a side in the mains. But the fact is that if you fill the mains more than about 25 gal a side some of it flows outboard into the aux tanks over the course of 10-30 min sitting on level ground. So IDK what other owners do about that...Rocket or 252 or whatever...but my position is you never know how much is out there after you take off. Or even at takeoff for that matter: I guess you could fuel up, wait 30 min, use a ruler to measure the level in the outboards to estimate gallons, then do W&B. But it would be approximate at best and would change in a non-deterministic way (I think) as you burn fuel so where your cg would be at any moment would be a complete unknown. No better and no worse than at takeoff or landing. No doubt someone will be appalled by this assertion and forcefully correct me...but I just do it as though its all in the mains and go. I live.

47.3 Fuel station is 48.9. Before my complete avionics redo the empty CG was 47.9. Just about everything in the aft avionics Bay came out...all that KFC200 stuff, the standby vac etc. So CG moved forward about .5" Caution...mine was weighed twice in its prior life post-factory and Both Times empty weight went up! Everyone I've spoken to says "whenever I've been asked to weigh an airplane I've never made the owner happy". Be careful what you wish for in other words it may not go as you hope. I find this whole thing fascinating though. Some guys with 231 Rockets have a UL over 1000# and I WAS almost 150# less before avionics cut my empty weight. Still at least 80# less. HOW can that be true? Similarly how can our CGs be so different? Your UL looks like 854...not too different from what mine was...but the CG is way off. I've about concluded that 100% of these numbers are pure fantasy.

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Exactly. What I use the timer for: the Rocket recommends you start cooling the engine before descent by reducting power 1" MP every minute. So I start the timer with the first 1" reduction, and look at it when I can and as long as at least a minute has gone by I pull another inch until I'm at 25" and 2200-2300 rpm....now screaming downhill at 500 fpm and north of 200 KTAS. Glorious. Then I reset it after landing and let the turbo cool at idle for approx 5 minutes, eyeballing the "credit" I get for pattern time at low power setting, then shut down. timed turns? VOR approach? Oh that last one--easy the time is always there at the bottom of my screen like a.....clock, would you say?