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Yep, that is what happens when I write when I can't sleep. That was gravity feed technique. My b. I still do that technique for L/R. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Welcome! This is a great place to learn about flying Mooney. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I have no idea. Does anyone know who runs that? I mod the MS safety section, but would be happy to have more info this event posted. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Agree with@carusoam, hard to predict plane prices vs recession. GA planes are generally a luxury item and when people have to tighten their spending, planes tend to go. However, many on this forum are long-term owners so market corrections/downturns are something they weather and outlast. If you are thinking about buying now vs waiting for a "buyer's market" then that choice comes down to how long you are willing to wait. If you plan to own this plane five years or longer, then I'd buy the plane that fits your requirements, regardless of market timing. If you are a short-term owner, than market timing matters more. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Nope, I'm farther south at KSSF (San Antonio). Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Use Vref as a starting point and study what avoinics is worth money, etc. Agree with watching the market as the best indicator. At the end of the day, your plane will sell at the price the market will bear. If you price too high, you'll know because you won't get much traction. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Agreed. Icing and long haul CC was why I upgraded to a Bravo. Have FIKI and used it three times this winter. Never planned, always found enroute, good enough to descend/climb to avoid. TStorms are no joke. They cause me more deviations and lost time than icing. Embedded T-Storms are a no-go. If you have any flexibility in your work travel, a short body Mooney will serve you well. If you absolutely must travel on time, a modern GA plane still may not have enough capes. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Fuel injection = No carb ice issues. However, hot starts can be temperamental. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

C, E, or F are all great planes. My first Mooney was an E for a little extra speed and fuel injection. Regardless of the model, don't do what I did and buy a low TT plane thinking that was a benefit. Find something that is being regularly flown with impeccable mx. I got a great deal, but ended up spending $ to catch up on deferred mx. If you are looking at business travel, dispatch rate will matter and being in the NW means you'll have low ceilings to deal with. I recommend you find a plane with a good autopilot coupled to a WAAS capable GPS. 530W are fairly plentiful in the short body Mooney's. This will reduce your IMC workload and I found that for ease of filing and flying, I flew LPV app. If that app wasn't available at my destination, I'd fly the ILS. Lastly, budget for $10k in mx for first year. Hopefully you won't spend that much, but if you fly 100+ hrs a year, it'll be around that for annual, parts replacement, oil changes, etc. Good luck in your search! Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I'd say that's a little lean forward. Assuming perfect weather over 1700 NM is probably not realistic. With a Ground Speed aroun 140 or less, it's gonna take 12-14 hrs. When I do long hauls, I plan for 6 hrs of flying which gives around a 8 hr day for fuel stops, bathroom and food. Yes, you can squeeze more put of the day and limit ground time. You're most likely going to deviate for TStorms, frontal passage, etc., and you'll have FBO delays. However, going across our country in a small plane is a lot of fun. Enjoy! Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I think this is a good example of volume of sales. Aircraft companies that sell in volume are able to be cost-competitive. Mooney sold 14 airplanes in 2018. Cirrus sold 380 that year. https://www.av web.com/insider/mooneys-last-act/ Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

The 'ol Whiz Wheel...nice! Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I also highly recommend a JPI. My engine was not rigged properly by PO, and we found it via the numbers. Agree on aggressive elwan while taxiing. Do static run-up, then note exact numbers on rotate, liftoff, engine parameters, VVI. After that, if you still have low numbers, get the engine compression checked and possibly borescoped. My guess is you have a cylinder that has low compression but still making power. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

There is no excuse for his attitude and with that mindset he puts others at risk because of ego and a lack of understanding basic rules. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

NTSB should be able to do analysis using the wreckage. If anyone sees the initial report, please post it here. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

The 50 is nice, but man, if I had $1.1M laying around a 62 would be awesome! Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I went through this when I chose to commute. At 700 NM, my trip was about 1.5 hrs shorter in a Mooney vs the airline route. Cost was more expensive in the Mooney. It comes down to cost vs time/convenience. Unless you are going to get a plane with O2 and FIKI, you'll run into winter dispatch issues. Even with those tools you still won't have 100% dispatch rate. Just go in with your eyes wide open. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

fuel all day long and twice on Sunday. it doesn't look too bad now, but it will only get worse with time. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

@TCC, You can get a really nice 310 for $180k. You can also get a nice long body Mooney for that same price range. I really like the T310s, but mx and budgeting for 2x overhauls has to be factored in. IMHO, if you plan to fly the family hard IFR or at night, a second engine is. I fly the fam during day VFR or high IMC. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I'm AF and just did a year of TX-AL commuting in my Mooney Bravo. I chose a Bravo because I required a plan that can fly in the FLs, a turbo, O2, and FIKI. In the winter I used all those tools. The SJT-AUS hop is easy in any of the Mooney's. Harder for the 1300NM trip. I was doing a bi-weekly 700NM trip and could do it non-stop with a headwind, but it was tough. Most of my flights were 3 hrs with a tailwind and 4.3 with headwinds. If you plan on taking two adults, you may be able to take full fuel, model depending. Anything more requires you to leave fuel. It sounds like you may need a payload at around 1000-1200lbs. If that's the case, you'll need to look at a T210 or other six seater. If you can live with 800 lbs then Mooneys are awesome. I'm in KSSF. If you pass through, we can fly in the Bravo. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I do love my Mooney. This is my second one. However, no plane is perfect. I've flown around 20 different planes and they all have strengths and weaknesses. Pointing out positive Cirrus traits doesn't lessen my Mooney enjoyment. Oh yeah, I forgot to add that I don't like Cirrus insurance rates compared to Mooney's... Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

In defense of Cirrus, I like the entry/exit better. Also has better headroom. I also like the leaning feature and advanced avionics. I like the BRS as an added safety tool for engine failures with no glide options. I like their community safety focus and Cirrus sponsored flight check outs for new owners. I don't like the added mx costs and the price compared to similarly equipped Mooney's. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Center of the zone. You shouldn't be "tugging" a Bravo off the ground. That can lead to a pitch overshoot, leading to nose high in the stall horn with a high power setting. Bravo's do take some backstick pressure to get the nose to rotate, but it should be applied smoothly until rotation. Hold that attitude and the plane will climb away easily. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Agrees. M20T. I just landed and was leisurely doing 145 kts at economy cruise (27/2400) at 1,500' MSL. Long body Mooney's should be compared to SR22T. They are similar. I've flown both. Mooney Bravo's will do 200kts in the FLs. I typically see 190-195 kts in the high teens. I have FIKI so I give up a few knots. I really don't see the point to compare speed or fire up the Cirrus/Mooney debate. Both are fine airplanes. Go fly both, check your wallet before purchase, and choose accordingly. For 200 kts, you can spend much less on a good condition long body than used SR22T. If you love BRS, then Cirrus it is. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

If "interesting" means "tragic." I agree. As a military aviator, I am far more concerned with GA flying than I am in a high performance ejection seat aircraft. Things happen faster in a jet, but we have more tools to keep us safe and the Martin Baker seat has an awesome track record. Every time I fly my Mooney, I think about where to put it if I have an engine failure. This is partly why I choose to fly high alt. Still, things like wx, single Piston, lack of excess power, systems that are less redundant, etc. make civilian GA flying inherently less safe. Some mil aviators don't fly GA. Others do. We all know the risk. Fly safe. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk