DCarlton Posted August 12 Report Posted August 12 11 hours ago, Shadrach said: Man, that's a funny looking J-bar... I wish.
Aaviationist Posted August 12 Report Posted August 12 11 hours ago, MikeOH said: Correct, if the cabin is placarded for NO SMOKING. Here is the cite from CAR 3: That doesn’t say what you say it says. In fact, the first sentence is “only materials which are flash resistant shall be used” followed by a period, not a comma. but we all know you only read parts of messaging that suit YOU. what that DOES say, and I’m just rephrasing exactly what you posted, is that all materials need to be flash resistant (which requires a burn certification to prove, or yes, an ASTM DOC, but you need to obtain that doc.) if the cabin IS smoking, materials need to be flame resistant (the difference between flame and flash). Still needs a burn certification then, which you inexplicably only highlighted half of, if there are no ash trays(or not Enough ash trays) you need a non smoking placard - which has nothing to do with the conversation of burn certification. why you posted this and thought it defended you position or was relevant only means you are an idiot or can’t read.
Aaviationist Posted August 12 Report Posted August 12 7 hours ago, Andy95W said: And more CAR-3 requirements, taken from AC 43-13-1B para. 9-61 (a) (1). Any material that meets any nationally recognized flash or flame resistance is acceptable. This would include many of the over-the-counter spray on treatments since many have an ASTM certification. So despite what @Aaviationist said, we do not need to meet the Part 23 flammability testing requirements. Yes, you can use ASTM docs as a burn certification, as for ASTM there must be a burn test. I would not suspect the cheap vinyl obtained from Amazon came with this paperwork, or met the ASTM requirements. It would require a burn certification (even if placarded no smoking)
N201MKTurbo Posted August 12 Report Posted August 12 Just for your own peace of mind, hold a piece up in the air and try to light the bottom of it on fire and see how it reacts. Some material will scare you. 1
00-Negative Posted August 12 Report Posted August 12 7 minutes ago, N201MKTurbo said: Just for your own peace of mind, hold a piece up in the air and try to light the bottom of it on fire and see how it reacts. Some material will scare you. Bedrug. I have a "Bedrug" made for the bed my F-250. I also have the same bedrug material pre-cut and molded for my Jeep interior flooring and sidewalls. I love this stuff. Very lightweight. Waterproof holds no odor or moisture. The edges won't unravel when trimmed, so it doesn't need binding. Comes in charcoal gray. I thought it would be a great idea to put this in place of the carpet in my Mooney. I tested it with a lighter. This stuff ignites and spreads flame like dry hay. 1 2
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