231flyer Posted June 7, 2012 Report Posted June 7, 2012 Small plane forced to land after violating presidential airspace restrictions A small plane was forced to land in Chino, California after a pilot violated airspace restrictions in place for President Obama's visit, FAA spokesperson Allen Kenitzer told CNN. Kenitzer had no further details about the incident. The military also intercept a private plane Thursday morning in the vicinity of Fullerton, California, Kenitzer said. The aircraft, a Mooney M20, landed at Chino at approximately 6:04 a.m. PDT. The FAA is investigating. The incidents on Thursday followed a similar issue on Wednesday when a fighter jet intercepted a single-engine airplane northwest of Los Angeles for breaching a temporary airspace restriction, according to a military news release. The temporary restriction violated by the Cessna aircraft coincided with a campaign visit to the city by Obama, who was on a one-day fundraising swing through the state. "After intercepting the aircraft, the F-16 followed it until it landed without incident, at approximately 4:58 p.m. PDT where the plane was met by local law enforcement," according to a statement issued by the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD). The president spoke at a gala for the gay community in Los Angeles, on his third fundraising trip to the Golden State in the past month. Earlier in the day, he attended two campaign events in San Francisco. NORAD's mission is to protect U.S. and Canadian airspace against possible threats and may require planes to change course or land Quote
FlyDave Posted June 7, 2012 Report Posted June 7, 2012 I work from home at the north end of the LA basin and I heard fighters circling something but I could not make a visual from where I was watching. It sounded like it was west of me, more towards KBUR but it may have been south as I live in the hills and sound has a tendancy to reflect off of the hills. This was later than 6 AM so maybe there was another "infraction". Quote
Shadrach Posted June 7, 2012 Report Posted June 7, 2012 Absolutely... Political fund raising and special interest galas take precedent over the business of the citizenry. ;-) Quote
231flyer Posted June 7, 2012 Author Report Posted June 7, 2012 Its election silly season so anything goes. I once had to divert because a certain POTUS needed to get a haircut on AF1 at Dallas Love. All GA trafic was closed for over an hr while Bubba got a "super cut". Our tax $ at work!!!!!! Quote
John Pleisse Posted June 7, 2012 Report Posted June 7, 2012 Duats...phone briefing.....FAA, AOPA, EAA e-mail blasts....it's getting kind of silly at this point. I can barely find time to fly and know where they are. Here in the DC area, we're used to it. We haven't had that number of violations here in the last 5 years total. Quote
Antoni Deighton Posted June 7, 2012 Report Posted June 7, 2012 While I think these TFRs are too big and overused, how can we still have so many busts? Like John says, I get notifications from AOPA, FAA, NBAA, and ForeFlight. And that's before talking to a briefer. Are that many people still taking off without doing a proper preflight, and what else are they missing? Still the best solution would be to reign in the number do TFRs altogether. Antoni Quote
jelswick Posted June 7, 2012 Report Posted June 7, 2012 Those businesses impacted by this campaigner in chief like flight schools or any others ought to be able to send the POTUS a bill for their economic impact. He can pay it out of his fund raising. Quote
Skybrd Posted June 7, 2012 Report Posted June 7, 2012 It appears that the noose is drawing tighter every year toward General Aviation freedom. I'm real glad that AOPA is pulling for us. I've been a licensed pilot for almost 40 years and seen lots of changes. Some are good and increase airspace safety but some are not in our favor. Our local airport BFL has drastically changed from a friendly general aviation airport to more commericalized and favors the rich jet types. The airport is all locked down thanks to 911 or TSA. -- About 2 years ago we visited Japan and I wanted to rent a plane. Found out that I couldn't do that without lots of red tape. Hope in the future we can continue to fly and be affordable. Quote
Comatose Posted June 7, 2012 Report Posted June 7, 2012 I love to be able to jump into my plane without talking to anyone and just go fly... but I live in Ohio, so during election seasons... I don't. From a security standpoint, does anyone else wonder if the risk posed to presidents and other TFR VIPs by GA planes isn't maybe outweighed by having eleven different sources all telling the whole world exactly when and where they will be at all times so we don't accidentally fly 10,000 over them? Quote
Antoni Deighton Posted June 7, 2012 Report Posted June 7, 2012 Quote: Comatose From a security standpoint, does anyone else wonder if the risk posed to presidents and other TFR VIPs by GA planes isn't maybe outweighed by having eleven different sources all telling the whole world exactly when and where they will be at all times so we don't accidentally fly 10,000 over them? Quote
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