dkkim73 Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 1 hour ago, PeteMc said: I also thought there should be a Pilot Lite for those that just want to use Pilot to update their DBs. You know, after my initial trial I missed GP because I could use it on my Android phone to do weather briefs during the day. I'll bet there is a pared-down set of features that people would pay for in a "lite" version.
toto Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 5 hours ago, PeteMc said: I always thought they should include the Basic in the OnePak and then have you pay for the Premium. But I guess their Marketing people think it's working that way. I thought a little bit about this - and I agree that it’s kind of a crazy model. But anyway - I suspect they do this so you get the Premium features whenever you have an active OnePak subscription, but your base product subscription is independent. If they tied the base subscription to the OnePak and you paid separately for the Premium upgrade, then you could end up paying for a year of the Premium upgrade and have the base product disappear one day later when your OnePak expires. Given the cost of a OnePak I think it would be a significant competitive moat just to include the GP Premium product from soup to nuts. But I’m guessing that’s why they give you the upgrade and not the base subscription. 1
PeteMc Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 1 hour ago, toto said: Given the cost of a OnePak I think it would be a significant competitive moat just to include the GP Premium product from soup to nuts. But I’m guessing that’s why they give you the upgrade and not the base subscription. Totally agree!!! But it is Garmin, which is why I didn't even go down that road! As you said, the current model is crazy enough. You're talking about Garmin doing something that makes sense.
Pinecone Posted June 3 Report Posted June 3 9 hours ago, exM20K said: I thought this was the case, but it wasn’t obvious to me how to activate it. I guess I need to look harder. -dan Make sure your basic package is listed in your flyGarmin account and uses the same log in. 1 2
hammdo Posted June 6 Report Posted June 6 Nice deal for GARMIN Pilot: https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/garminapppro.php edit: Garmin must have notified them - new price now
flyboy0681 Posted June 12 Report Posted June 12 I went up with my instructor yesterday and shot several approaches from under the hood while using SmartCharts. I won't lie, it is considerably better than the government charts, mostly due to the removal of so much clutter. All that is presented is the information that I need to know, and the ability to select only the frequencies, briefing and missed tab at the top, well, is the icing on the cake.
amillet Posted June 12 Report Posted June 12 I have a GTN750 and have used Foreflight for years. I tried GP when I started using FF but didn’t think it was an improvement. Starting to re-evaluate but my ADS-B in is a stratus 2 which doesn’t appear to be compatible with GP, so looks like I would have to buy a new Stratus. I think I’ll stick with FF which I’ve already learned how to use. 1
flyboy0681 Posted June 13 Report Posted June 13 20 hours ago, amillet said: I have a GTN750 and have used Foreflight for years. I tried GP when I started using FF but didn’t think it was an improvement. Starting to re-evaluate but my ADS-B in is a stratus 2 which doesn’t appear to be compatible with GP, so looks like I would have to buy a new Stratus. I think I’ll stick with FF which I’ve already learned how to use. You have a big, beautiful 750 (like me) and don't have it hooked up to a GDL-88? 1
amillet Posted June 14 Report Posted June 14 13 hours ago, flyboy0681 said: You have a big, beautiful 750 (like me) and don't have it hooked up to a GDL-88? Correct. $$$$$$
dkkim73 Posted June 14 Report Posted June 14 Does anyone know if there's a way to enable internet-fed traffic on GP?
hammdo Posted June 21 Report Posted June 21 @Garmin Aviation Team, found something that I’m not sure how to override: NOTAM for LNAV MDA but smart chart not updated and I don’t see a way to override: -Don
midlifeflyer Posted June 21 Report Posted June 21 6 hours ago, hammdo said: @Garmin Aviation Team, found something that I’m not sure how to override: NOTAM for LNAV MDA but smart chart not updated and I don’t see a way to override: -Don There isn’t at this point. Being able to annotate the chart or otherwise make changes due to NOTAMs and the like is one of the top two or three wish list items I’ve see mentioned. 3
natdm Posted June 21 Report Posted June 21 I think I’m making the switch. Only thing I see missing is the camera feeds that FF has. Those would be great for places like the coasts and Alaska.
Thedude Posted June 28 Report Posted June 28 I made the switch and I'm happy, just got a flightstream 510 too to get the engine info live. I wish there were camera feeds though, that's huge to see some of the conditions on the coast.
toto Posted June 28 Report Posted June 28 I’m exclusively a GP user … what are these camera feeds about?
midlifeflyer Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 12 hours ago, toto said: I’m exclusively a GP user … what are these camera feeds about? FAA program to provide real-time visual weather data. FF just began incorporating it into the airport pages. Here’s the FAA site. https://weathercams.faa.gov This describes the program: https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato/service_units/systemops/fs/alaskan/weather_cams 1
natdm Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 Decided against making the switch, sadly. The app is so much slower than Foreflight. Maybe it’s written in Java and runs in a VM in the iPad but it’s just slow. It’ll also glitch out a lot. I’ll click an airport and it’ll show details, then vanish. Last thing I need is that if I’m in a high pressure environment. You can’t annotate on SmartCharts and they’re not always right (they don’t seem to always adjust for NOTAMs which makes me lose faith in them). They also don’t persist my airplane category so I need to switch it every time. That seems like a simple oversight. No live camera feeds, no user comments, that’s a bummer. For at least one more year, I’ll stick to Foreflight. 1
toto Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 10 minutes ago, natdm said: The app is so much slower than Foreflight. Maybe it’s written in Java and runs in a VM in the iPad but it’s just slow. It’ll also glitch out a lot. I’ll click an airport and it’ll show details, then vanish. Last thing I need is that if I’m in a high pressure environment. This doesn’t sound like it’s working right. I’m not an expert on all things GP, but I haven’t seen any particularly slow behavior or disappearing airport details - I wonder if there is a resource contention issue on your iPad or similar. Anyway - I’m just saying that your experience is not what I would consider acceptable, and I definitely would not use GP if I had the same. 4
DXB Posted August 7 Report Posted August 7 35 minutes ago, PT20J said: Here's the ForeFlight Dymanic Procedures video. Very glad Foreflight is keeping up and am looking forward to checking it out. I was not enthusiastic about making the switch to Garmin Pilot.
donkaye, MCFI Posted August 7 Report Posted August 7 17 minutes ago, DXB said: Very glad Foreflight is keeping up and am looking forward to checking it out. I was not enthusiastic about making the switch to Garmin Pilot. There are some nice things about the Foreflight Charts, but when all is said and done I think the Garmin Smart Charts are both easier to use and provide data in a more useful form. The overlays on Foreflight are better, since Garmin doesn't have any--yet, as well as both visual on lighting and 3D view of the runway.
Jeff Uphoff Posted August 7 Report Posted August 7 A longtime ForeFlight user, I put the new Dynamic Procedures to use twice yesterday during mountainous IMC approaches, one of them a cockeyed LDA+GS down a valley to approaching minimums after a couple of soggy turns in a hold. It all just…made sense. I found moving to DPs a non-event. —Up. 1
exM20K Posted August 7 Report Posted August 7 I had a medium-workload approach mid day today, and I found the FF display very cluttered and unhelpful. Just too much on one screen, and it just didn’t add anything. I’ll watch the video to see if I’m doing something wrong. I suppose I could turn off range rings and glide ring, and i had RNAV 14 CTL 6 selected as the approach which further clutters the screen. I'll keep trying to improve this. The flight plan page on G1000 resents this info much better for me. -dan
hammdo Posted August 7 Report Posted August 7 I now run ForeFlight for what it does best, Garmin Pilot for what it does best (SmartCharts for SIDs, STARs, IPs). I plan on canceling my Jepp charts since GP is a legal replacement and i can use the Gov charts. I don't fly internationally so those will suffice. I still really like ForeFlight but the DP approach to things are just ok and only support IPs for now… I do like the alternate airport binder auto create in FF - great add there Good to have competition… They’ll both get better… -Don
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