Electric Kick Scooters

[N201MKTurbo]

30 minutes ago, Hank said:

 

Do you think the bag is impact-rated to fall from your plane with burning stuff in it and not bust open when it hits the ground / trees / road / a building, scattering flaming debris around?

And how do you get that burning scooter battery in the baggage area up to the storm window anyway???

On my one wheel, it takes about 30 minutes to remove the battery on a bench with all the proper tools lined up. I know, I just did it. 
 

I think most PEVs don’t have batteries that are removable. My one wheel is hard enough to get in and out through the baggage door. Trying to wrestle it from the baggage compartment to the door would be quite the feat. And I don’t know if you could push the door open enough to get it through. 
 

I was thinking mostly about your phone or IPad going nuclear. If you hav a PEV in the back, I think you are screwed. I think your best bet is to throw a fireproof blanket over it to shield the flames from the seats and upholstery.

[Pinecone]

6 hours ago, LANCECASPER said:

 

The main function of the Avsax isn’t just a place to drop the device into that’s heating up. As was mentioned in a previous post, you add water when you drop it in the bag. 

“The water activates the polymer gel inside the bag, causing it to expand around the device. Should the device continue venting, the AvSax is tough enough to absorb the explosive force. In short, the AvSax cools the batteries in the device, reducing the likelihood of the battery catching fire but if it does go into thermal runaway it is all contained within the bag. Includes bag and protective gloves for handling the overheating device”

Again.  You have to carry 2 liters of water where you can reach it.  They say add the water BEFORE putting the device in the bag.

All this time, the device is blowing flames, smoke, and gases at you.  And getting HOT.

Remember, 2L of water is 4 normal water bottles.

[LANCECASPER]

20 hours ago, Pinecone said:

Again.  You have to carry 2 liters of water where you can reach it.  They say add the water BEFORE putting the device in the bag.

All this time, the device is blowing flames, smoke, and gases at you.  And getting HOT.

Remember, 2L of water is 4 normal water bottles.

The Avsax people at Oshkosh 2022 said that's how much water the airlines use to quickly contain a runaway laptop of the largest size or the big portable batteries that people use to power their devices. (I forget how many "saves" they quoted where the airliner continued to its destination rather than having to declare an emergency and divert to nearest.)

In marketing to General Aviation they mentioned  that 12 oz would take care of a smart phone and 16 oz. would do an iPad mini.

[Pinecone]

2 hours ago, LANCECASPER said:

The Avsax people at Oshkosh 2022 said that's how much water the airlines use to quickly contain a runaway laptop of the largest size or the big portable batteries that people use to power their devices. (I forget how many "saves" they quoted where the airliner continued to its destination rather than having to declare an emergency and divert to nearest.)

In marketing to General Aviation they mentioned  that 12 oz would take care of a smart phone and 16 oz. would do an iPad mini.

Airliner has lots of water.  And the people handling the hot device are not also flying the plane.

But 12 - 16 ounces is much more doable.