Moritz gauges repair

[NewMoon]

A knowledgeable individual mentioned no repairs available.  what have others done if they fail?

[jetdriven]

Primary engine monitor like a GI275 EIS

[Bolter]

When you see someone make a panel upgrade, make an offer on their set as a future swap.  

[LANCECASPER]

29 minutes ago, Bolter said:

When you see someone make a panel upgrade, make an offer on their set as a future swap.  

Many times the Moritz gauges failing is what forces the panel upgrade.

Mooney started installing these in the 1999 models and the last Moritz Mooney gauges were made 20 years ago. They started failing in some cases less than 5 years of being new. Moritz and then Radiant Power charged an arm and a leg to repair them since their gauges were normally in turbine airplanes. Once they ran out of parts they orphaned them and stopped servicing them all-together. While the gauges had some nice features when they worked, at this stage of the game, the quicker you can get them out the better, since it grounds the airplane when the ships' gauges don't function and leaves you stuck someplace.

Until you can get into a shop for a new monitor, if you could find a set where they all worked that would be great, but even then it's still just a band-aid. They all fail. Better to put any of that money toward a solution. 

[NewMoon]

Thx guys, seems like a dismal situation.  Seems like a fair amount of them still flying with those gauges though. My friend Chris went to a 275 as the solution.  

[Fritz1]

I replaced all the light bulbs in mine, this is about as far as they are serviceable, they work as long as they work, if and when they fail the easiest way out is a small certified engine monitor like a JPI 900, kinda small, the larger ones like the 930 typically triggers an entire new panel. I have seen several Moritz equipped airplanes for sale where the asking price included an engine monitor upgrade. Bottom line the Moritz is a liability, risk is the potential downtime in case of failure.

[jetdriven]

We love the 275 EIS 

 

[NewMoon]

Thx all for the input. No easy solution.  

[Ali]

On 5/24/2024 at 3:54 AM, NewMoon said:

A knowledgeable individual mentioned no repairs available.  what have others done if they fail?

Hello,

As per my knowledge

If no repairs are available, others have often looked into replacement options or reached out to the manufacturer for possible solutions. Some also explore DIY fixes or seek help from online communities for advice.

I hope this will help you,

Thank you

[LANCECASPER]

3 minutes ago, Ali said:

Hello,

As per my knowledge

If no repairs are available, others have often looked into replacement options or reached out to the manufacturer for possible solutions. Some also explore DIY fixes or seek help from online communities for advice.

I hope this will help you,

Thank you

The manufacturer stopped servicing them over 10 years ago

[M20S Driver]

On 5/24/2024 at 5:36 AM, Fritz1 said:

I replaced all the light bulbs in mine, this is about as far as they are serviceable, they work as long as they work, if and when they fail the easiest way out is a small certified engine monitor like a JPI 900, kinda small, the larger ones like the 930 typically triggers an entire new panel. I have seen several Moritz equipped airplanes for sale where the asking price included an engine monitor upgrade. Bottom line the Moritz is a liability, risk is the potential downtime in case of failure.

Are the light bulbs available? Do you have part number or a Pic?

Thanks in advance.

[Mark89114]

This is the company I talked to only 4+ years ago.  He said it is just a rumor that they don't repair them.  Your mileage may vary.  Mine started magically working again.  So never did a follow up.  Please let me know how it goes.  

 

 

Kind regards,
Mike Paulsen
Sales/Customer Service Mgr. Repair Center
Radiant Power Corp.
a HEICO company

7135 16^th Street East, Suite 101

Sarasota, FL 34243

Email: mpaulsen@rpcaero.com

[LANCECASPER]

 

There have been times when they have and times when they haven't repaired them. I understand that they may still repair some Moritz gauges for Cirrus airplanes.

However in the times that they claim that they are repairing any Moritz gauges, ask them how much they charge. It will make a new monitoring solution seem like a bargain. 

[Mark89114]

I literally have no idea what the cost could be for a repair.  An EIS is going to cost $15K (I have no idea) but I think that is a fair number.  

It is where and how you want to spend your dollars.  Either way it is going to cost a lot of money.    

[LANCECASPER]

2 hours ago, Mark89114 said:

I literally have no idea what the cost could be for a repair.  An EIS is going to cost $15K (I have no idea) but I think that is a fair number.  

It is where and how you want to spend your dollars.  Either way it is going to cost a lot of money.    

I've had a couple of JPI 930's installed over the years. At any shop that does them regularly,  it's +/- 40 hours labor.  That's the legitimate number of hours that keeps coming up on Mooneyspace. 

There are deals from time to time that pop up when you aren't in a hurry. People are taking perfectly good pieces of equipment out of panels. People are crashing airplanes. Hurricanes and tornadoes are causing hangars to collapse on airframes. The last 930 I did, I bought one that was coming out of an airplane and all-in including labor and everything ended up being $6500. (Another amazing good fortune on that one was that when I sent it to JPI to have them re-configure for my airplane, they somehow shipped mine to Southeast Asia. So they ended up sending me a brand new unit with brand new sensors for my trouble, and didn't charge anything for the reconfiguring . . . oh and shipped it to me overnight free. I was expecting to have $7500 all-in into a used one, and ended up having $6500 total installed into a brand new unit.)

Admittedly you aren't going to see that every day, but I'm confident since I've used the same shop for years, that with patience I could get one all-in installed for considerably less than $10,000. I would much rather do that than spend $6000 on a band-aid, which is what Radiant was charging ten years ago, to just kick the can down the road. Be on the lookout and assemble the pieces ahead of time so that before it gives out, you're ready. If you decide to pull it before it goes out it's worth something to someone else trying to nurse theirs along. If you wait until it's kaput then it's worth zero.

[philiplane]

Radiant Power charges $6k to repair the engine data computer for the early Cirrus EIS that displays on the Avidyne EX5000 MFD. The computer used to cost $1100 exchange from Cirrus, before RP took over the line.