No more ident?

[Yetti]

On 9/29/2022 at 8:46 AM, N201MKTurbo said:

I think a lot of the radar displays now show ADSB data, so your tag will have your N Number displayed without the controller doing anything. If they don't have that capability, they have to positively identify you to assign your N number to your tag.

bingo

[Jpravi8tor]

Maybe the controller needed to see the one "TREE" in the forest!

 

[Yetti]

Learned today that some of the Executive Airports that got a tower a couple of years ago around here.   Use an Ipad for their Radar.   I mean why not.

 

[Skates97]

SoCal Approach can see your N number with ADS-B out even if you are squawking 1200. If I'm not on flight following for a VFR flight I will still monitor approach. On more than one occasion on a short flight I have had approach call me in the blind asking "November 78878, are you on frequency?" I'll respond and often they ask if I would like flight following or just my route of flight to help them know what to expect from me.

Here is an example of a data block for a VFR aircraft from the webinar I linked in my next post.

Edited October 13, 2022 by Skates97
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[Skates97]

There was a webinar a few months back with one of the controllers from the SoCal TRACON that was excellent. It is a couple hours long but was full of information to help better understand what is happening on the other end of the radio.

 

[EricJ]

5 hours ago, Yetti said:

Learned today that some of the Executive Airports that got a tower a couple of years ago around here.   Use an Ipad for their Radar.   I mean why not.

 

I think at least the federal towers aren't allowed to have personal electronics on the job.

[Yetti]

On 10/13/2022 at 8:03 PM, EricJ said:

I think at least the federal towers aren't allowed to have personal electronics on the job.

These are private towers with not enough landings to get a radar.   I think they put the towers in to meet op specs for the jet crowd.   If ADSB is good enough for the pilots,    They probably also use FlightAware......  gasp.

[Pasturepilot]

Every once in a while, I get asked to ident on initial call. It's rarer than in the past.... usually when I'm in a spot where radio coverage isn't great. 

I have a suspicion that between ADS-B and most of us sporting GPS technology, ATC has a better idea of which patch of sky to be searching for us, versus having to gaze across the whole screen when we first call them up. 

Pre-GPS I once called up Atlanta approach for flight following and made a bad guess at my distance off the Atlanta VOR. Forgot how many miles to an inch on the chart? Failed to carry the one? Who knows. "If that's your position, you're already in the Bravo" sent chills down my spine. Then, "oh, got you now, you're still clear of the Bravo, cleared through the bravo..." 

[rbp]

Curiously yesterday, I got a code from BOS but he never radar identified me, so I asked "Boston, did you radar ID me and I missed it?" to which he replied "Mooney 2154x, is 15 north of montauk, 7 thousand five hundred"). exact same thing happened on the way back, but a different controller. what's up with BOSton??

[carusoam]

System works so reliably… they don’t bother to confirm with the pilot?

Interesting…

Best regards,

-a-

[rbp]

1. POSITION INFORMATION

Inform an aircraft of its position whenever radar identification is established by means of identifying turns or by any of the beacon identification methods outlined in paragraph 5-3-3, Beacon/ADS-B Identification Methods. Position information need not be given when identification is established by position correlation or when a departing aircraft is identified within 1 mile of the takeoff runway end.