LANCECASPER Posted January 13, 2022 Report Posted January 13, 2022 I found this on YouTube and it looks like a much better solution than the standard attitude indicator. I believe the airplane is N961DB registered to Henry R Butler (Randy Butler according to YouTube). Quote
Danb Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 Lance it still doesn’t solve the problem with it being considerably outside my scan. Ideally it would between the mfd and pfd the design team dropped the ball with the stupid layout they gave us. I love the unit as backup IMO not there. I left your country this morning KGGG heading home stopping in Lexington due to icing near and around Wilmington Quote
carusoam Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 Note above for @LANCECASPER Good evening Dan! -a- Quote
LANCECASPER Posted February 8, 2022 Author Report Posted February 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Danb said: Lance it still doesn’t solve the problem with it being considerably outside my scan. Ideally it would between the mfd and pfd the design team dropped the ball with the stupid layout they gave us. I love the unit as backup IMO not there. I left your country this morning KGGG heading home stopping in Lexington due to icing near and around Wilmington I agree. I can't imagine how the backup instruments being way over to the right ever got approved on Mooney and Beechcraft G1000 airplanes. Cessna put theirs along the bottom of the panel. Even if there wasn't enough space for the full sized backups along the bottom of the Mooney panel, 2-1/4" backup instruments closer or on the left of the PFD would have been better. There's a Mooneyspace post back in 2016 where @Ptsticks put in a Mid-Continent SAM over to the left of the PFD and added a Trig Com 3 and 2nd Transponder incase he lost the G1000 (which he had in IMC which led to the additions). His post is toward the bottom of the 2nd page of this thread: 1 Quote
exM20K Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 4 hours ago, LANCECASPER said: I agree. I can't imagine how the backup instruments being way over to the right ever got approved on Mooney and Beechcraft G1000 airplanes. I agree as well. The DA40 / DA42 panel is so well designed in comparison. The standby gauges are in front of the pilot, above the PFD. No head turning, and no vertigo. -dan 1 Quote
Schllc Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 The ultra moved the mfd to the right enough to put the mid continent in the center of the panel. not sure why this couldn’t be done on the acclaim and ovationGX if someone wanted to pay for the panel to be recut. I have had a screen failure in Imc in my ovation. I ended up getting into the right seat to fly and land. It’s visible from the left seat but very uncomfortable to use as a primary. 2 Quote
carusoam Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 Mid to late 90s… people didn’t have the experience of good digital equipment…. None from cars, none from PCs… So…. Traditional Mechanical gauges were always going to be there somewhere… Looks like the SAM has been well tested over many years… and now resides between a lot of G1000 panels… Fear of RedXs still exists… for a variety of reasons…. Just not having the main device wear out…. PP thoughts only, -a- Quote
LANCECASPER Posted February 9, 2022 Author Report Posted February 9, 2022 9 hours ago, carusoam said: Looks like the SAM has been well tested over many years… and now resides between a lot of G1000 panels… Fear of RedXs still exists… for a variety of reasons…. Just not having the main device wear out…. PP thoughts only, -a- I wonder if someday they'll make a smaller version of SAM .. . . maybe Son of SAM. PP thoughts only, not an avionics or serial killer specialist -L- 3 1 Quote
GeeBee Posted March 18, 2022 Report Posted March 18, 2022 I have the GI-275 as a back up. I have practiced with it, and it is easily usable. However, I used to be a CFI-I and I am used to flying cross cockpit. The last time I did it, I was in the right seat of a Boeing 767 in the sim and I flew the standby indicator cross cockpit (don't ask me why) but I consider it easy to do. What I wish they would do is have a switch to be able to put the GI-275 over to the autopilot in the event of G-1000 failure. If I am going to fly on standby, I am going to be looking for a surveillance approach to some fairly high minimums since I would have to go back and forth between the nav indicator on the failed G-1000 and the GI-275. It is one time when the S-Tec installation is superior to the GFC-700. 1 Quote
LANCECASPER Posted March 18, 2022 Author Report Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, GeeBee said: I have the GI-275 as a back up. I have practiced with it, and it is easily usable. However, I used to be a CFI-I and I am used to flying cross cockpit. The last time I did it, I was in the right seat of a Boeing 767 in the sim and I flew the standby indicator cross cockpit (don't ask me why) but I consider it easy to do. What I wish they would do is have a switch to be able to put the GI-275 over to the autopilot in the event of G-1000 failure. If I am going to fly on standby, I am going to be looking for a surveillance approach to some fairly high minimums since I would have to go back and forth between the nav indicator on the failed G-1000 and the GI-275. It is one time when the S-Tec installation is superior to the GFC-700. What I'm also wondering is if the GI-275 could fit in the panel below the MFD on GFC700 airplanes? (The STEC below the MFD might be too tight for the GI-275) Quote
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