harrold philippi Posted November 21, 2021 Report Posted November 21, 2021 Does anybody have an idea where to find the squat switch on a M 20 C Quote
KSMooniac Posted November 21, 2021 Report Posted November 21, 2021 Left main gear. Try some contact cleaner if it is balky. Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk Quote
RobertGary1 Posted November 21, 2021 Report Posted November 21, 2021 Also it’s an unsquat switch. 1 Quote
Mooneymite Posted November 21, 2021 Report Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, RobertGary1 said: Also it’s an unsquat switch. True, dat. WOW switch on my C = weight OFF wheels. Quote
Ragsf15e Posted November 21, 2021 Report Posted November 21, 2021 8 hours ago, harrold philippi said: Does anybody have an idea where to find the squat switch on a M 20 C Also, don’t be surprised if there isn’t one. There’s only a couple years where they used squat switches. What year is your C? Quote
harrold philippi Posted November 22, 2021 Author Report Posted November 22, 2021 My airplane is a 1969 Quote
Marauder Posted November 22, 2021 Report Posted November 22, 2021 My airplane is a 1969Some of the models used an airspeed squat switch. If you have one, it will be attached to the back of the airspeed indicator. Here is what the mechanical squat switch looks like. As mentioned, on the left main. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote
harrold philippi Posted November 22, 2021 Author Report Posted November 22, 2021 Thank you for the picture I have inspected the landing gear nose and mains and it does not appear that I have a switch in those locations. I was reading that some of the c models had the squat switch under the belly pan. I am going to look behind the airspeed indicator before I remove the entire belly. I will post the results later today. Quote
EricJ Posted November 22, 2021 Report Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, harrold philippi said: Thank you for the picture I have inspected the landing gear nose and mains and it does not appear that I have a switch in those locations. I was reading that some of the c models had the squat switch under the belly pan. I am going to look behind the airspeed indicator before I remove the entire belly. I will post the results later today. If you have an air switch it may not be right at the airspeed indicator. It can be anywhere in the pitot line under the panel. Looks like this: 1 Quote
Ron McBride Posted November 22, 2021 Report Posted November 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, EricJ said: If you have an air switch it may not be right at the airspeed indicator. It can be anywhere in the pitot line under the panel. Looks like this: In my 69F that is what it looked like. Behind the instrument panel. You must have airspeed to raise the gear. It takes very little air pressure to make it happen. Quote
RobertGary1 Posted November 22, 2021 Report Posted November 22, 2021 4 hours ago, harrold philippi said: Thank you for the picture I have inspected the landing gear nose and mains and it does not appear that I have a switch in those locations. I was reading that some of the c models had the squat switch under the belly pan. I am going to look behind the airspeed indicator before I remove the entire belly. I will post the results later today. Might be confusion. The switch in the belly is the gear limit switch, not the squat switch. The squat switch detects if there is weight on the gear. -Robert Quote
Marauder Posted November 22, 2021 Report Posted November 22, 2021 Also it’s an unsquat switch. Unless you fly in really cold climates and it becomes a permanent unsquat switch. When I based in Buffalo, we had a few winters where we stayed below freezing for an entire month. That resulted in the donuts never expanding enough to make contact with the switch. I ended up installing the override switch found in later Mooney’s. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote
harrold philippi Posted November 22, 2021 Author Report Posted November 22, 2021 I think this the old style switch Quote
Guest Posted November 22, 2021 Report Posted November 22, 2021 There is not an airspeed safety switch in the picture. Clarence Quote
Ragsf15e Posted November 22, 2021 Report Posted November 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, harrold philippi said: I think this the old style switch So with a ‘69C and having looked at the gear closely, you don’t have a squat switch. However, as clarence said, you don’t have an airspeed safety switch (ass for short) in that picture. It should be a big brass colored thing with pitot lines attached to it. You’ve very likely got one somewhere behind your panel! Also, do you have a gear problem you’re trying to resolve? Describe what happens and there’s a good chance we can point you in the right direction. Quote
RobertGary1 Posted November 22, 2021 Report Posted November 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Marauder said: Unless you fly in really cold climates and it becomes a permanent unsquat switch. When I based in Buffalo, we had a few winters where we stayed below freezing for an entire month. That resulted in the donuts never expanding enough to make contact with the switch. I ended up installing the override switch found in later Mooney’s. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro I see you also have the same voice annunicator I have. 1 Quote
harrold philippi Posted November 22, 2021 Author Report Posted November 22, 2021 For anyone who has a gear problem this is a picture of my pressure switch. Quote
Ragsf15e Posted November 22, 2021 Report Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, harrold philippi said: For anyone who has a gear problem this is a picture of my pressure switch. Nice! 50+ years isn’t bad. You sure that’s the problem? The limit switches in the belly are another common issue when they are this old… Quote
RobertGary1 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Posted November 23, 2021 16 hours ago, Ragsf15e said: Nice! 50+ years isn’t bad. You sure that’s the problem? The limit switches in the belly are another common issue when they are this old… Or not lubed at annual. But the symptom will lead you to which switch it is. 1 Quote
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