mooneyman Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/09/16/us/AP-US-Air-Show-Crash.html?_r=1&hp Thoughts and prayers to all involved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTK Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Tragic indeed. Thoughts and prayers to all involved and their families. What a tragedy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATTS875 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 just saw this on news report.. very sad. prayers go out to all families involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parker_Woodruff Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Absolutely devastating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooneygirl Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 We have several friends there including Scott Peterson, who is Sven on this list. So far all are okay. Haven't heard from one friend from AOPA. Sending thoughts and prayers to those families affected by this tragic event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldeano Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 We have several friends there as well, most of whom we have heard from. They described the scene as surreal. I was there in 2007 when the three pilots were killed and I remember how somber that was. I can't even imagine what it must be like now! My heart goes out to those people there to enjoy one of aviations last great events, only to end up injured. And to the families of those that were killed. Truely an incredibly tragic event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Just returned home. The scene was unbelievable and horrific. Debris was flying everywhere. Thankfully the big stuff stopped before it reached us. I was following him the entire time with my camera. We were too shocked to run. My friend was so close he got sprayed with avgas. The scene looked a war zone. I'll give a PIREP later on what the plane did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldeano Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Quote: Sven Just returned home. The scene was unbelievable and horrific. Debris was flying everywhere. Thankfully the big stuff stopped before it reached us. I was following him the entire time with my camera. We were too shocked to run. My friend was so close he got sprayed with avgas. The scene looked a war zone. I'll give a PIREP later on what the plane did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 that looks terrible. This angle almost looks like a botched 4-point roll. He was travelling at pretty high speed, it didnt look like a stall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Sure reacted like a possible trim tab. Remember what happened to Voodoo. I'm sure they will figure this out. My prayers to all. Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Unbelievable photos Scott. You take care please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldeano Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Just saw a photo posted on facebook where you could clearly see the trim tab had seperated. Happy to report at least all of the folks that I work with at Kenmore Air that went down there are OK. They all seem to have similar stories to Sven. I'm sure the event was insured, but I hope the flying community will rally to do whatever they can for the victims and their families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 This aircraft has been air racing since 1949. What a history. http://www.ww2color.com/nennius/webapps/slides/slides.php?action=update&primary_key=00033 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 The trim tab makes sense. Our friends down by the pits heard a non-engine popping sound just before it lost control. The wobbling we all saw looked like a struggle for control of the elevator. Maybe that's what caused it to pitch up so severely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 He might have been incapacitated from the failure of the tab. A couple of photos on the web don't show a helmet in the canopy. There must have been some tremendous G-forces involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 I have three pictures of his abrupt climb and one of the descent. You can't see his helmet in any of them. On the one I took during his ground roll he's clearly visible. Also, several people noted that when they saw the elevator trim tab break off the tail wheel also deployed. Every one of my pictures clearly show that. I'm wondering if the G forces pushed him down into his seat and that's why we can't see him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Maybe 10 or 12 G's pulled the tailwheel out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awful_Charlie Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 A truly horrible event. This picture has been passed aroundfor the trim tab http://i.imgur.com/yPwE1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve65E-NC Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Any ideas on why "NO FIRE" at the Reno crash?? You read reports of people being covered with Av Gas. Look at the photos of the crash today in WVA and imagine that imposed on the Reno scene. It could have been so much worse. Do Reno racers have special fire slowing features? Did the pilot have an option that affected this outcome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottfromiowa Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Fox had an excerpt from a pilot (father-n-law) of one of the on set anchors who was in the stands. He stated that this is conjecture, but felt the pilot did an excellent job (if he was alert and not incapacitated) of nearly getting the plane onto the tarmac. Was coming right at stands and nearly missed them...His words placed the pilot in a "hero"/trying to save lives until end...I have also seen the photos of the broken trim tab. My thoughts and prayers to the pilots family and those that were killed and injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M016576 Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 brutal tragedy... just brutal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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