New guy here, but need help.

[airguy55]

Hey gang, mane is Billy, A&P IA and have worked at mooney repair centers my whole career.  I am now a repossession agent for aircraft and an insurance adjuster.  I have owned a 231 and now have a great Ovation with A/c 530 496 ect.

Love the planes.  I have an interesting claim on a Porsche mooney.  The guy had all the mods done to convert it to a 550, with the speed brakes, long range tanks ect.  The hangar fell on the plane back in 04-05, the plane was repaired painted and has now been sitting because he cant get the manuals for the 550 conversion.  we have all the stc's but he is missing the poh suppliment, the installation drawings and parts lists for the conversion of the engine.  The insurance company wants to see this guy fly again as it has been 5 years since he has flown his plane.  I am looking for a Porsche owner that has had the conversion to copy the info for him so we can get the plane signed off.  Repeated attempts to get the info from the stc holder  (who is now out of business) produced no results.  Willing to pay for the time and copies of course.

Any help is appreaciated.

Billy

386-314-4455

airguy55@hotmail.com

[KSMooniac]

Billy, welcome.

In the MAPA Log ads in the back, there has been an ad for www.porschemooney.com that someone put together to exhange info and learn about those birds.  I have visited the site months ago, but now it appears to be kaput.  If you're a MAPA member (we all should be!) you might be able to contact Trey Hughes and see if he could tell you the owner of the ad, and then you might be able to get to a treasure trove of info.

[KSMooniac]

Let's hope not!  It seems we're both on here at the same time pretty frequently, though. 

[TurboExec]

Let me know if he decides to sell the plane with the Porsche Engine still in it.  I'd love to get my hands on an original one....I shouldn't have passed up the chance I had to get N911GT.

[KSMooniac]

Just got this an email:

Recently Issued Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin

The FAA has issued the following SAIB:

NE-09-21 titled Reciprocating Engine dated March 31, 2009. Introduction: This Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin (SAIB) alerts you, owners, operators, FAA Principal Maintenance Inspectors, and repair facilities of Porsche PFM 3200 series reciprocating engines and Porsche 678/4 reciprocating engines, that the Type Certificates (TCs) for these engines have been cancelled, effective January 1, 2009.

Background: In a letter dated September 17, 2007 to the FAA Engine Certification Office, Porsche surrendered TC No. E23NE for cancellation. In that letter, Porsche informed the FAA that they no longer have the intention or capacity to support the PFM 3200 series reciprocating engines. Thereafter, EASA also informed the FAA that they revoked the TCs for Porsche PFM3200 series engines and 678/4 engines that they had issued. After review of Porsche?s request and EASA?s notification, the FAA has also cancelled TC No. 7E2, which is for 678/4 engines.

Recommendations: With the cancellation of the Porsche engine TCs, we are alerting owners, operators, FAA Principal Maintenance Inspectors, and repair facilities of Porsche PFM 3200 series engines and Porsche 678/4 engines, that they should be aware of the following:

1. A TC for an aircraft with a Porsche engine installed remains effective. Approved type design and substantiating data remain valid for both engine and aircraft.

2. Existing aircraft can retain their airworthiness certificates as long as the aircraft meets Part 43- Maintenance and Part 91- Operation requirements.

3. We will not accept any new applications for standard airworthiness certificates for aircraft with either Porsche engine installed.

4. Production of the Porsche engines has ceased. Further, Porsche is not exporting any new or replacement part. Contact your local FAA Flight Standards District Office to determine what needs to be done when you no longer have OEM parts to repair these engines.

5. Existing engine ADs must still be complied with. New ADs against the engine may be issued to address future unsafe conditions. If replacement parts required by an AD are unavailable, the aircraft might be permanently grounded.

For Further Information Contact: Jason Yang, Aerospace Engineer, FAA Engine certification Office, ANE-142, 12 New England Executive Park, Burlington, MA 01803; phone: (781) 238-7747; fax: (781) 238-7199; e-mail: jason.yang@faa.gov

[Greg_D]

Billy:  Baron Thomas has one for sale.  You might contact him or the owner to see if they are willing to help out. Of course, you may have to donate to hiis web site fund before he'll talk to you.

[airguy55]

I appreciate the info about the mapa group and will contact them in the morning.

I have talked with Barron Thomas about the plane.  He said he will be more then willing to copy the info but the owner of the plane must supply him with conformation of the STC being paid for.  The owner has a reciept for upwards of 85 thousand that he paid for the conversions but does not have a specific reciept for the stc due to the fact that it was over 5 years ago and the hangar collapsed on his plane.  All records from the shop were destroyed, the plane was repaired at another facility, paid for by the insurance company and now sits.  This is an assignment by the insurance company just trying to help the guy out.

 

anyway, I have a call or two to make and try to get some info.

I was hoping to find one of the owners of a conversion.

Glad I have the Ovation,  I just took a full of pride 23 year 201 owner for a ride in her and now he wants an Ovation.  And I want an Acclaim.  Jeez this never ends.  I remember when the 231 was the cats az. When are we gonna turbo normalize the Ovation??  I hate to think I am missing 50 Knots.

[Mooney_Allegro]

I use to rent a Porsche Mooney back up at KTHV, York, PA.  That plane was awesome and easy to fly with only 1 power lever.  It attracted a lot of attention anywhere I flew it, such a nice plane.