Bartman Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 We have been thinking about flying to the most sunny location available on August 21 to watch the total eclipse. Still, unless it is totally severe clear you still take a chance on missing a once in a lifetime opportunity. Anybody thinking about watching it from the air? I figure if you are above the clouds and clear air you may potentially see more than you would on the ground. At 12,500 you could orbit in a 20 degree bank with the autopilot in calm air. You should be able to see the penumbra and umbra coming, total eclipse, then see the shadow as it departs to the southeast. Anybody else thought about, or planning on this ? 1 Quote
The Other Red Baron Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 I'm planning on flying or driving to see it but I think I'll just hang out on the ground for the main event. I feel like it would be similar to fireworks in a plane. Quote
ArtVandelay Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 In the southeast it will be around 2-3 in the afternoon, could be a lot of cumulus clouds. Thinking of it, but weather would have to be ideal. Quote
Raptor05121 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 I'm flying to Triple Tree, SC for their fly-in for it. Aug 20-22 Quote
201er Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 Is there any kind of electromagnetic activity during an eclipse that could affect gps, vhf, xpndr, avionics, or other aviation systems? Quote
gsengle Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 Is there any kind of electromagnetic activity during an eclipse that could affect gps, vhf, xpndr, avionics, or other aviation systems? Nope it's just a shadow.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
gsengle Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 The whole of wildlife goes quiet, but otherwise as Steve says its just a shadow. Greg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
201er Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 46 minutes ago, gsengle said: Nope it's just a shadow. I get that. I'm not saying it's the apocalypse. But maybe that shadow blocks out certain frequencies or it changes others. I could see how hypothetically that could create unwanted interference or jamming in some bandwidths. Or, I could imagine the shadow actually blocks the sun's waves and radio signals become cleaner with less solar radiation. Anyone genuinely know the answer? Quote
gsengle Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 I get that. I'm not saying it's the apocalypse. But maybe that shadow blocks out certain frequencies or it changes others. I could see how hypothetically that could create unwanted interference or jamming in some bandwidths. Or, I could imagine the shadow actually blocks the sun's waves and radio signals become cleaner with less solar radiation. Anyone genuinely know the answer? I do. Degree in astrophysics. Just a shadow. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
peevee Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 We're flying to see it but unless it's cloudy well see it from the ground. Would being at 15k feet change the angles enough that it wouldn't be as good the air? Quote
neilpilot Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 Also plan to fly, land, and observe from the ground. Somehow I just can't see wearing those special glasses, watching the eclipse before/after totality, while acting as PIC. Pun intended. Quote
EricJ Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, 201er said: I get that. I'm not saying it's the apocalypse. But maybe that shadow blocks out certain frequencies or it changes others. I could see how hypothetically that could create unwanted interference or jamming in some bandwidths. Or, I could imagine the shadow actually blocks the sun's waves and radio signals become cleaner with less solar radiation. Anyone genuinely know the answer? 17 minutes ago, gsengle said: I do. Degree in astrophysics. Just a shadow. I do, too. Advanced degree in Electrical Engineering and thirty years developing wireless communication systems. Just a shadow. And the Bernoulli effect is real, too. ...runs away... 3 Quote
BradB Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 Planning on heading somewhere and watching from the air or ground depending on weather. Location will be a game time decision. Quote
gsengle Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 Anyone think airports in the path will clog up?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
EricJ Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 1 minute ago, gsengle said: Anyone think airports in the path will clog up? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm wondering that, too. Hoping to be able to fly to either eastern WY or western NE. Alliance, NE, home of CarHenge (which is awesome), is having a bit of a shindig, so maybe someplace like that. Quote
thinwing Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Hyett6420 said: The whole of wildlife goes quiet, but otherwise as Steve says its just a shadow. (Actually hes called Greg, just dont tell anybody). Maybe not...because the uv striking and creating the Earths ionosphere ,will be rapidly reduced allowing the energized electrons to recombine with their native gas elements..a quick "night effect" is produced.Radio bands above 10mhz that bounce off this E layer during the day ,now shoot thru and other bands are expected to be effected as this rapid day/night cycle is produced.Hams across the US and else where will be measuring beacons with decoding software and signal to noise logging.They are specially interested in the 50 MHz/6 meter band for evidence of weird propagation... 1 Quote
gsengle Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 Maybe not...because the uv striking and creating the Earths ionosphere ,will be rapidly reduced allowing the energized electrons to recombine with their native gas elements..a quick "night effect" is produced.Radio bands above 10mhz that bounce off this E layer during the day ,now shoot thru and other bands are expected to be effected as this rapid day/night cycle is produced.Hams across the US and else where will be measuring beacons with decoding software and signal to noise logging.They are specially interested in the 50 MHz/6 meter band for evidence of weird propagation... The shadow is tiny as a percentage of the earths or the ionosphere surface area....Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
thinwing Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 Just now, gsengle said: The shadow is tiny as a percentage of the earths or the ionosphere surface area.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 70 mile wide totality...hundreds of mile wide partial....That enough to see effects! Google Aug 21 Ham QSO ... Quote
gsengle Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 70 mile wide totality...hundreds of mile wide partial....That enough to see effects! Google Aug 21 Ham QSO ... Not affecting aviation.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
thinwing Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 Just now, gsengle said: Not affecting aviation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Day / night currency regulations? Quote
gsengle Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 Nope, not covered in the reg.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
thinwing Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 Good article from nuts and volts on this.... Quote
thinwing Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, gsengle said: Anyone think airports in the path will clog up? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Check out Madras Ore airport website for what they are expecting! Quote
Guest Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Hyett6420 said: The whole of wildlife goes quiet, but otherwise as Steve says its just a shadow. (Actually hes called Greg, just dont tell anybody). You wouldn't want to be flying with a parrot during the eclipse, just in case it's gyro topples. Clarence Quote
thinwing Posted July 10, 2017 Report Posted July 10, 2017 1 hour ago, 201er said: I get that. I'm not saying it's the apocalypse. But maybe that shadow blocks out certain frequencies or it changes others. I could see how hypothetically that could create unwanted interference or jamming in some bandwidths. Or, I could imagine the shadow actually blocks the sun's waves and radio signals become cleaner with less solar radiation. Anyone genuinely know the answer? Even though your question was dismissed "as just a shadow"others have designed and experiment based on an earlier eclipse: Quote
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