aviatoreb Posted March 11, 2016 Report Posted March 11, 2016 :-( Such a sad ending for my first very own airplane. N805ER. At least no one was hurt, thank goodness. How strange to see her in such a state. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-DIAMOND-DA-40-STAR-AIRFRAME-COMPLETE-WITH-WINGS-GEAR-CANOPY-COWLS-ETC-/381564505015?forcerrptr=true&hash=item58d7044bb7:g:RsUAAOSwr7ZW31wn&item=381564505015 Here is the report. http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20150128X02253&key=1&queryId=2f4e9926-bbf6-47c1-8492-c82c06e8188d&pgno=11&pgsize=50 Here she is on happier days: I sold N805ER about 5 years ago shortly after I purchased my Mooney rocket. I got her about a year after my PPL and I trained instrument on her and flew her for a few years. The DA40s are super trainers. They are just a tad slower than an M20F for speed - same engine - but more forgiving. But a good transition airplane to a Mooney since the low wing likes to float if you are not on speed when you flare, so you need to learn good speed control. It had no autopilot or possibility of installing one, and I was ready to move up to something more high performance. Its a bit sad, but I think of how much more sad I would have been to read an ntsb report that would have included severe injuries or worse. Quote
1964-M20E Posted March 11, 2016 Report Posted March 11, 2016 I've always like the DA 40s but the buy in was too much for me when I bought my 1st plane. wouldn't be bad if you could go experimental with it and bring it back to life. maybe? Quote
aviatoreb Posted March 11, 2016 Author Report Posted March 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, 1964-M20E said: I've always like the DA 40s but the buy in was too much for me when I bought my 1st plane. wouldn't be bad if you could go experimental with it and bring it back to life. maybe? That was a "no-autopilot" steam gauge DA40, meaning there was no possible path to get it an autopilot within the certified airplane STC routes. SO it was essentially orphaned by the Diamond aircraft company as far as upgrades but fully supported as status quo. This status meant it was surprisingly inexpensive to purchase when I got her, considering I had a relatively new fantastic looking and flying airplane to fly around in and gain experience - certainly less expensive then a well equipped M20J (in then current dollars). Considering no wheel pants, but I had powerflow, she was faster than book and could true out at 150TAS on a good day and 75% power. I had always wanted to buy the wheel pants but never got around to it. So my wife was joking with me when I got this Mooney and STILL no wheel pants! No - that airplane will not likely fly again - she needs a new wing! And engine, and avionics, and interior, and paint...cheaper just to buy another one. There were at least 9 N80xER airplanes. All from Embry Riddle. A couple of times, no kidding, air traffic controllers piped up to say "N805ER, I flew that airplane when I was in school...." That was cool. My airplane was alumnae which sort of made me like the domestic partner of an alumnae. 1 Quote
Marauder Posted March 11, 2016 Report Posted March 11, 2016 It is strange to see something you have an emotional attachment end up this way. I had the same feeling when I found out the plane I soloed in was involved in a fatal crash: http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20001211X14578&key=1&queryId=12220a1a-4065-483b-bb51-673239833100&pgno=1&pgsize=200 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote
Bob_Belville Posted March 11, 2016 Report Posted March 11, 2016 Yeah, N31911, a T tail Lance that I flew over 200 hours in after I sold my 1st Mooney, crashed on an instrument approach a few years after my friend sold it. Pilot and a passenger were killed. http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=44040 1 Quote
carusoam Posted March 11, 2016 Report Posted March 11, 2016 I just checked on my old friend. She has recently changed hands and is still flying out West... Funny feeling I had hoping she was well and all that have flown with her. Best regards, -a- Quote
Seth Posted March 14, 2016 Report Posted March 14, 2016 Erik- I'm sorry that your old bird is no longer flying. It's amazing if you look in your logbook and start searching, you find just how many of the aircraft you used to fly are no longer registered due to an incident or maintenance. Very disheartening. Take care, -Seth Quote
Shadrach Posted March 14, 2016 Report Posted March 14, 2016 On March 10, 2016 at 10:41 AM, aviatoreb said: :-( Such a sad ending for my first very own airplane. N805ER. At least no one was hurt, thank goodness. How strange to see her in such a state. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-DIAMOND-DA-40-STAR-AIRFRAME-COMPLETE-WITH-WINGS-GEAR-CANOPY-COWLS-ETC-/381564505015?forcerrptr=true&hash=item58d7044bb7:g:RsUAAOSwr7ZW31wn&item=381564505015 Here is the report. http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20150128X02253&key=1&queryId=2f4e9926-bbf6-47c1-8492-c82c06e8188d&pgno=11&pgsize=50 Here she is on happier days: I sold N805ER about 5 years ago shortly after I purchased my Mooney rocket. I got her about a year after my PPL and I trained instrument on her and flew her for a few years. The DA40s are super trainers. They are just a tad slower than an M20F for speed - same engine - but more forgiving. But a good transition airplane to a Mooney since the low wing likes to float if you are not on speed when you flare, so you need to learn good speed control. It had no autopilot or possibility of installing one, and I was ready to move up to something more high performance. Its a bit sad, but I think of how much more sad I would have been to read an ntsb report that would have included severe injuries or worse. That is a bummer. At least it gave its life so others may tell the tale. I did not realize they were that quick. I think of SR20s as a tad slower than an F model. I've always thought DA40s were 135kt airplanes (regardless of factory claims), but I've been in one once (many years ago) and I was sitting right seat. Quote
MooneyBob Posted March 14, 2016 Report Posted March 14, 2016 I started my training in this DA-20. I switched to another plane at another airport when I was 38 hours in the training because I wanted to fly 4 seater. Two weeks later my instructor died and his student got hurt in this crash. The the cause of the accident? Very simple. Overweight on the hot day. http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20130531X45544&key=1 Quote
aviatoreb Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Posted March 15, 2016 6 hours ago, Shadrach said: That is a bummer. At least it gave its life so others may tell the tale. I did not realize they were that quick. I think of SR20s as a tad slower than an F model. I've always thought DA40s were 135kt airplanes (regardless of factory claims), but I've been in one once (many years ago) and I was sitting right seat. Mine was a tad faster than book - the book was made before the powerflow exhaust mod which helped dramatically, but also mine was one of those odd birds that was just mysteriously a tad faster. That said, the newest versions the DA40XLS models are a tad faster than mine was. Quote
aviatoreb Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Posted March 15, 2016 5 hours ago, MooneyBob said: I started my training in this DA-20. I switched to another plane at another airport when I was 38 hours in the training because I wanted to fly 4 seater. Two weeks later my instructor died and his student got hurt in this crash. The the cause of the accident? Very simple. Overweight on the hot day. http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20130531X45544&key=1 Wow - so sorry to hear that. AT least N805ER gave herself to save the pilot. Quote
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