thomas1142 Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Does anyone have any info on N5726M, it is Listed on Trade-a-Plane. http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/aircraft/Single+Engine+Piston/1984/Mooney/M20J+201/2151083.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSMooniac Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Looks like a nice plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Looks like maybe a prop strike with the prop overhaul and engine teardown 159 hours ago. Or maybe a gear up with the new paint. etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Very interesting... and I've been kicking around the idea of upgrading to a J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooniac15u Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 The GNS 480 and the MX 20 are both orphaned boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSMooniac Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Looks like maybe a prop strike with the prop overhaul and engine teardown 159 hours ago. Or maybe a gear up with the new paint. etc. Ad copy claims it was a prop strike of a tie down chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor05121 Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 wow that purdy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakeup Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Just curious...has anyone ever traded in your old plane to get something newer through agencies like this ? Do you they give you much for your old plane? Troy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Fox Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 The GNS480 is still supported by Garmin......The MX20 is indeed orphaned... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjensen Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 TT is high, was it a trainer at some point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Response for Wakeup.... Convenience usually costs you additionally. Since it is a major convenience to unload one plane while picking up the next, it may be worth it to you. Contact All American Aircraft to see how they would handle that with your plane. Assuming they have something that you want. I separated the sale and purchase. It took almost a year. Not very convenient. Best regards, -a- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooniac15u Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 The GNS480 is still supported by Garmin......The MX20 is indeed orphaned... Can the 480 display traffic and weather from Garmin ADS-B receivers like the GDL88? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmyfm20s Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Just curious...has anyone ever traded in your old plane to get something newer through agencies like this ? Do you they give you much for your old plane? Troy In a state like California if you purchase a plane through a dealer and use your old one as a trade in you only have to pay the difference in sales tax. Depending on the values involved it could be a good deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakeup Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Thanks everyone. I prob will keep mine for awhile since I have brand new sealed tanks plus I'm putting a EDM 830 next week. I'm just looking forward to getting back in the air more and learning as much as I can. Troy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustler Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Accident Occurred on: 1989-02-13 00:00:00 Narrative (ACCP): Narrative (ACCF): THE INSTRUCTOR (CFI) RPRTD THE STUDENT MADE A NORMAL APCH & HIS LANDING WAS GOOD, EXCEPT THE NOSE OF THE ACFT WAS A LITTLE HIGH. HE SAID HE TOLD THE STUDENT 'TO PULL THE THROTTLE BACK' & THAT IT WAS A GOOD LANDING, BUT THE STUDENT ADDED POWER. THE CFI TOLD THE STUDENT TO THROTTLE BACK 2 MORE TIMES. RPRTDLY, THE STUDENT THROTTLED BACK ONCE, THEN ELECTED TO GO AROUND. THE STUDENT SAID THAT DRG THE LANDING, THE ACFT BOUNCED TWICE BEFORE HE TOLD THE CFI HE WAS GOING TO MAKE A GO-AROUND. THE CFI SAID THAT DRG THE GO-AROUND, THE NOSE CAME UP & THE ACFT BEGAN A TURN TO THE LEFT DUE TO THE NOSE HI ATTITUDE & FULL POWER. THE STALL WARNING HORN SOUNDED & THE CFI TOLD THE STUDENT TO REDUCE DRAG BY RETRACTING THE GEAR & FLAPS. DRG THE OCCURRENCE, THE CFI TOOK CONTROL OF THE ACFT & TRIED TO RECOVER, BUT THE ACFT MUSHED TO THE GROUND ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE RWY WITH THE GEAR RETRACTED. THERE WERE NO RPRTD MECHANICAL PROBLEMS WITH THE ACFT AT THE TIME OF THE ACDNT. Narrative (CAUSE): FAILURE OF THE STUDENT TO FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS AND INADEQUATE SUPERVISION OF THE FLIGHT BY THE CFI WHICH RESULTED IN ADEQUATE AIRSPEED NOT BEING MAINTAINED BY THE CFI. DURING AN ATTEMPTED GO-AROUND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas1142 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Accident Occurred on: 1989-02-13 00:00:00 Narrative (ACCP): Narrative (ACCF): THE INSTRUCTOR (CFI) RPRTD THE STUDENT MADE A NORMAL APCH & HIS LANDING WAS GOOD, EXCEPT THE NOSE OF THE ACFT WAS A LITTLE HIGH. HE SAID HE TOLD THE STUDENT 'TO PULL THE THROTTLE BACK' & THAT IT WAS A GOOD LANDING, BUT THE STUDENT ADDED POWER. THE CFI TOLD THE STUDENT TO THROTTLE BACK 2 MORE TIMES. RPRTDLY, THE STUDENT THROTTLED BACK ONCE, THEN ELECTED TO GO AROUND. THE STUDENT SAID THAT DRG THE LANDING, THE ACFT BOUNCED TWICE BEFORE HE TOLD THE CFI HE WAS GOING TO MAKE A GO-AROUND. THE CFI SAID THAT DRG THE GO-AROUND, THE NOSE CAME UP & THE ACFT BEGAN A TURN TO THE LEFT DUE TO THE NOSE HI ATTITUDE & FULL POWER. THE STALL WARNING HORN SOUNDED & THE CFI TOLD THE STUDENT TO REDUCE DRAG BY RETRACTING THE GEAR & FLAPS. DRG THE OCCURRENCE, THE CFI TOOK CONTROL OF THE ACFT & TRIED TO RECOVER, BUT THE ACFT MUSHED TO THE GROUND ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE RWY WITH THE GEAR RETRACTED. THERE WERE NO RPRTD MECHANICAL PROBLEMS WITH THE ACFT AT THE TIME OF THE ACDNT. Narrative (CAUSE): FAILURE OF THE STUDENT TO FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS AND INADEQUATE SUPERVISION OF THE FLIGHT BY THE CFI WHICH RESULTED IN ADEQUATE AIRSPEED NOT BEING MAINTAINED BY THE CFI. DURING AN ATTEMPTED GO-AROUND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas1142 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 I also looked this up on the NTSB site. Over 20 years ago, should not be an issue, a good insp should clear. With this accident and the latest prop strike, is the price accurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooniac15u Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 You might want to check the useful load on this one. It might be on the low side. The empty weight of the M20J increased through the early 80s. Eventually Mooney increased the maximum gross weight and there's an STC for a gross weight increase on some older airframes but I don't think this one is eligible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldguy Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 My '84 J is 5767Z and currently has about 5200 hours on it with an MX-20 and 430W. Never was a trainer but was the demo plane for BFG Avionics for over a decade. Similarly equipped to this one and can carry three adults with full fuel or 4 with enough fuel for a 3 hour flight with reserves. Mooniac15u is right; neither this one nor mine are eligible for the GW increase. I wouldn't so much worry about the hours if the plane has been well maintained (or repaired). I have been fortunate to find the oil analysis on mine is still available to me from the folks I use to do mine and can see as far back as 2006. It also has Maxwell, Dugosh and several other MSC annuals across its lengthy history. And as the demo plane, it had true 100 hour inspections on a regular basis. As far as the orphan avionics go, the MX-20 is no longer even repaired by Garmin, but used ones and even the newer GMX-200 are regularly on ebay if you just had to have one. the price may or may not be the perfect price, but if you want to buy and they want to sell, the only deal that can be reached is when you are both happy with the number. I say if it's the right plane for your mission, go for it! John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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