Danb Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 I just purchased a small Yorkie and am trying to decide if I drive 5 hours or fly one hour,I'm worried about the noise and fear factor if any of a babies first interaction with me is in a noisy scary environment. Any recommendations would be helpful,, I've flown a few missions for Pilots and Paws and only had one incident. Would the little girl have a bad first impression with its new owner..Thanx Dan
bonal Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 I think it would be the same as it is for us 5 hours in a car vs 1 in a Mooney as for noise you can run a lower power and rpm to quiet things down a bit. Of course with the car you can make doggie stops but I think if it's put in a nice carrier with a little blanket it would do fine and will get her used to flight. I'm no expert on the subject but when exposed to things early on animals adjust pretty well. 1
Hank Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 We took our poodle on his first flight at about 4-5 months. He rides well now at almost 7 years. We always put him in his crate on the back seat. He yelps briefly on short final or touchdown. 1
Danb Posted February 27, 2015 Author Report Posted February 27, 2015 Hank did he see scared his first time, I'm worrying about this being her first interaction with us being in a noisy situation?
Marauder Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Dan -- all the puppies I have flown have fallen asleep. I think our planes produce more of a drone sound to them.
cujet Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 I live in S. FL and found a 7 week old Norwegian Elkhound pup in Ohio. Flew up to purchase the pup. I brought along a small cardboard box, a couple of dog blankets, my airplane cover and a piece of one and a half inch SCAT tubing for airflow. (I brought along other doggie requirements too) On the flight up to Ohio, I put my iphone in the box, recording a video to check sound levels. I then placed various blankets, towels and found a position for the box that was quietest. I ended up putting the airplane cover over the box too! The multiple layers helped and kept the inside more than quiet enough. While I did not bring along my sound level meter, I did use the iPhone to carefully record noise as I added layers. The box was quite a well insulated bundle after I was done. I cut 2ea. 1 and 1/2 inch holes in the box. The top one for "air in" the side one for "air out". I jammed the tubing in the top, positioned the other tube end by the vent and made sure my side hole was clear. On the 5 hour flight home, I'd stick my finger in the box and the pup would lick my finger. I kept the altitude change rate to a careful minimum, and I did not go up all that high, 5500 if I recall correctly. Dogs are sensitive to altitude. Maybe more so than people. Anyway, she did just fine, and now loves the airplane!!!! She is completely at home flying in the back seat. 3
DrBill Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 90 PERCENT of the pups I've flown on PNP have fallen asleep. I use 1/2 a medium crate with an old blanket in it and a few milkbones. Often all the milkbones are still there at the end of the trip. GOOD LUCK Bill
MHemperly Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 I think it will be just fine. Most likely fall asleep. But totally agree with the guys above, if exposed early she will grow up being use to it. Get a nice little crate and be on your way. Our Yorkie loves to fly, in fact he too falls asleep in the back seat. He just gets a little nervous on take off and landing... It's weird how he knows. Good luck and post pics of the pup
N201MKTurbo Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 I flew a friend up to portland to pick up two Great Dane puppies. We just put them in the baggage compartment. They just fell asleep, until it got bumpy, then they threw up. So put down some blankets.
Tommy Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 We took our poodle on his first flight at about 4-5 months. He rides well now at almost 7 years. We always put him in his crate on the back seat. He yelps briefly on short final or touchdown. And I just spent almost 20 hours fixing the stall warning! Would've been much cheaper and easier to just get a puppy! 2
StinkBug Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 I do a lot of metal fabrication for a living (read: loud freaking power tools). When my Boxer was a puppy I made a point of having her around the shop when I was working. She is probably one of the only dogs I've ever seen who doesn't even look up from her bed when you fire off a grinder or start hammering on something. Get em used to the plane early and you'll probably have a happy flier forever.
ArtVandelay Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 I've measured the sound levels in my J at cruise, they were 90-95dB from the pilot seat. If I flew regularly with a dog I would get them hearing protection. I think cujet's recommendation of using a box is a good idea, also gives them a feeling of security
mike28w Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 We took our poodle on his first flight at about 4-5 months. He rides well now at almost 7 years. We always put him in his crate on the back seat. He yelps briefly on short final or touchdown. Yeah , well I always yelp a little during landings too....so don't hold it against him !! mike
Hank Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 Yeah , well I always yelp a little during landings too....so don't hold it against him !! mike He started out as a stall warning horn, now he's an audible gear down horn. 1
Awqward Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 I read somewhere that at around 6-8 weeks puppies are prone to the "terrors"....meaning they are easily frightened and can then develop a fear of something that stays with them for life...I'm sure the loud noise and unfamiliar motions of an airplane could be a source of fear...
Danb Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Posted February 28, 2015 This little yorkie puppy is about 16-17 weeks old.lI went to the vet yesterday and he gave me a little calming pill I guess tranquilizer if he seems jumpy while I'm at there home, I'm kinda against that though.
Awqward Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 Probably fine in the airplane...I guess you'll have someone sitting in back comforting him anyway...I would love to take my dog flying with me but I would be limited to flying in the UK (can't take an animal in a private plane over to Europe....or more importantly BACK from Europe)....and here in the UK many airports would freak at a dog being loose/on a leash....being a Labrador he's too big for a backseat crate...good luck!
aviatoreb Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 We have a very bug fuzzy dog named Cupid. I have thought of flying with her - but I worry about her messing up my wing climb on, but mostly she is very big and her crate is even bigger to fit her in. I would do it if I needed to transport her but not for regular use. She does love driving - and running. She is an 85lb White Samoyed.
ArtVandelay Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 We have a very bug fuzzy dog named Cupid. I have thought of flying with her - but I worry about her messing up my wing climb on, but mostly she is very big and her crate is even bigger to fit her in. I would do it if I needed to transport her but not for regular use. She does love driving - and running. She is an 85lb White Samoyed. You'd have to put flaps down so she wouldn't try land on them. Dogs like to do whatever you are doing, they just want to be with the pack.
mike_elliott Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 We have a very bug fuzzy dog named Cupid. I have thought of flying with her - but I worry about her messing up my wing climb on, but mostly she is very big and her crate is even bigger to fit her in. I would do it if I needed to transport her but not for regular use. She does love driving - and running. She is an 85lb White Samoyed. I had a 30# American Eskimo who absolutely loved to fly. I got in the habit of leaving my flaps in the TO position so he could easily jump up on the wing walk, and enter the cabin when invited. There, he would take his assigned seat directly behind me and happily stay there for the flight. He became quite well known around the airports of the Midwest, and really enjoyed going to I69 on Saturdays for Sporty's free hot dogs.
aviatoreb Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 I had a 30# American Eskimo who absolutely loved to fly. I got in the habit of leaving my flaps in the TO position so he could easily jump up on the wing walk, and enter the cabin when invited. There, he would take his assigned seat directly behind me and happily stay there for the flight. He became quite well known around the airports of the Midwest, and really enjoyed going to I69 on Saturdays for Sporty's free hot dogs. My baby sister had an American Eskimo - but I think hers was smaller, like #20. Defn the mini-look-alike for a Samoyed - lovely dogs both of em' eh? 1
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