Marauder Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 Peter Garmin can you help me? I'm on my way over to the airport and I'm not sure which hat I should wear? 1 Quote
carusoam Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 The Aspen one seems to have wear and tear from regular use... The Garmin one looks more pristine like a hangar queen... Go Oshkosh innovation releases, -a- Quote
carusoam Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 Pete's time stamp indicates that it took me at least three minutes to think up such humor and get it typed in! I guess BK gave up on hats... Best regards, -a- Quote
Marauder Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 The Aspen one looks to be propped up. What did you put under it? The bill from Garmin. Sorry I would have answered sooner but I was enjoying the experience flying with my Aspen. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote
Marauder Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 And oh, yeah, the Garmin 650. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote
231LV Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Posted July 29, 2014 ....another data point in this adventure....my quest to install AdSB In/Out ( currently mandated on ALL GA aircraft by 1/1/2020) has hit a gold wall...apparently it is necessary to upgrade my trusty Garmin 430 to WAAS in order for the traffic to display and provide the precise location for the system to work. This is a mandatory upgrade. I will also have to procure a new mode S transponder and a data link...cost for all this plus install....hold on to your seats folks....$15000!!! Are they "nuckin futs"? I can't believe the aviation community is going to simply swallow a mandatory $15,000 by 2020. As I dig more deeply into this, I am starting to realize that something has got to give! I have been reading bits and pieces about ADSB IN/Out and hearing all the great stuff it will do but NOWHERE have I rad about the total cost that many aircraft owners will have to face to become compliant. My panel isn't new but it certainly isn't too far off the average panel in most planes today so if this is what I am facing, then I'm betting the average pilot will also be facing this...where is AOPA on this? Quote
KSMooniac Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 There are cheaper options out there, but they won't give you any extra features such as WAAS navigation, traffic/wx display, etc. Â If you don't want that nice stuff, you can get by for a few AMU. Â You can currently go with portable options to display the traffic/wx for far less money, and on a much better screen. Quote
231LV Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Posted July 29, 2014 Brief edit...the 2020 date mandates only ADSB Out....which is the reporting function.......less costly by about half as near as I can tell....still expensive and obscene for both the in and Outt capability...let's hope technology rides to our rescue! Quote
carusoam Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 We used to go through this more often... The last ones I recall was the changes to Mode C and radio Channels (frequency separation) went from 360 to 720 (or something like that)... The older birds needed new transponders and radios. Then Loran got turned off... The longer you wait the better off you are. The rules don't solidify until late in the game... Change too soon, and the new box needs a patch that is not as good as the next version. How's my memory today? -a- Quote
ArtVandelay Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 Change too soon, and the new box needs a patch that is not as good as the next version. How's my memory today? -a- That's just software update, the hardware requirements won't change.. Your memory is good, and if you go further back, wasn't there a big uproar when the FAA was created? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote
231LV Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Posted October 20, 2014 Just to close this thread out.....I finally got the install completed this past weekend. The plane was originally left on August 21 but was not completed until Oct 3. It wasn't a big problem for me since I had no big trips during Sept. Unfortunately, the autopilot interface didn't work necessitating a return this past Saturday. Turns out it was a bent pin that was replaced and now everything works as advertised. I'm still learning all the buttons but what I have seen so far is this is one sweet piece of glass. Â Â The workload drops significantly as the interface between my Garmin 430, the Aspen and the Century 41 autopilot is as smooth as butter. The only odd thing I have learned is when flying the ILS, the Loc and GS tapes are located on the AH, not the typical HSI which makes for a relearning of where to focus....oh ...and also what buttons to push in what order. Otherwise, this is well worth the time and expense for me! 2 Quote
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