Where were the "E"s?

[Bob_Belville]

I know there are still a lot of M20Es flying and active on Moonespace but there were many more Cs Js and Ks at the MAPA Convention. I wonder why. Just coincidence? I'm going to guess there were 3 or 4 Cs or Js for every E there.

[TWinter]

Was hoping to go, but had a few issues at work that needed attention.  No Business=No Money=No Mooney. Hopefully next year

[RocketAviator]

Was hoping to go, but had a few issues at work that needed attention.  No Business=No Money=No Mooney. Hopefully next year

Man I hear you.... boy do I hear you!

[pinerunner]

What they said.

 

I guess E owners are on a tight budget. I really like my E but if I had an extra 50K a year I'd likely have a J.  Mines grounded (engine pickled as described in MBusch vid) while I pay down a credit card, replace carpet, and now I'm also checking that rear spar.  I expect to be back in the air in a couple months.

[clh]

I was not in the USA until yesterday.   Maybe next year.

[jetdriven]

clh I left the day you got into town. Maybe next year.

[Jerry 5TJ]

I know there are still a lot of M20Es flying and active on Moonespace but there were many more Cs Js and Ks at the MAPA Convention. I wonder why. Just coincidence? I'm going to guess there were 3 or 4 Cs or Js for every E there.

Looks like there are about half again as many "C" as there are "E" based on the FAA registry. 

I did the arithmetic about two years ago and found 1,592 "C" and 1,073 "E" in the USA.   There were another 1,557 "J" models. 

So, yes, there are a lot more "C" and "J" than "E", and what you saw at MAPA is about the right ratio. 

[Bob_Belville]

Looks like there are about half again as many "C" as there are "E" based on the FAA registry. 

I did the arithmetic about two years ago and found 1,592 "C" and 1,073 "E" in the USA.   There were another 1,557 "J" models. 

So, yes, there are a lot more "C" and "J" than "E", and what you saw at MAPA is about the right ratio. 

Interesting, your figures would indicate about 3 Cs and 3 Js for every 2 Es. I estimate there were at least 4 Cs & Js for every E on the line.

[Ned Gravel]

I had TWinter's problem.  Working.  Not being on the continent does not help either.

[scottfromiowa]

Mines in Tulsa at Britain getting upgraded.

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[mike_elliott]

FWIW, there were only three vintage Mooneys at the Mooney Summit this past winter here in Panama City Beach, and one of them was Rob's C model with the entire 201 treatment, including the OEM 201 cowling, so it hardly counts. I was surprised and disappointed, as this is the group with which I best relate.

Ahh, but there were many other vintage owners there like yourself, IE Mike S., John B., myself,  Gus H, Larry K to name a few,  that just didn't bring their vintage planes. (I bought the Bravo).

[HRM]

The others have summarized things well. For me, The Mistress is in her hangar being fitted with new lingerie, and she won't go anywhere underdressed. I had a ride to the convention, but work got in the way, so there was the double-whammy.

 

Frankly, as I approach retirement, I am slowly getting my E into near-new condition. The interior is almost done and next is the panel, which will finish it. I'll have lots of time to flit about the country, maybe even the world, later.

 

The E is essentially a two-seat aircraft. It has the best performance (theoretically, Vne is far underrated on the E) of any of the Mooneys, but those two seats limit a large segment of the Mooney ownership group. Then there is their age. These are factors that contribute to the rarity of seeing one, but then again, that is one of the things that makes them so super.

[Bob_Belville]

The others have summarized things well. For me, The Mistress is in her hangar being fitted with new lingerie, and she won't go anywhere underdressed. I had a ride to the convention, but work got in the way, so there was the double-whammy.

 

Frankly, as I approach retirement, I am slowly getting my E into near-new condition. The interior is almost done and next is the panel, which will finish it. I'll have lots of time to flit about the country, maybe even the world, later.

 

The E is essentially a two-seat aircraft. It has the best performance (theoretically, Vne is far underrated on the E) of any of the Mooneys, but those two seats limit a large segment of the Mooney ownership group. Then there is their age. These are factors that contribute to the rarity of seeing one, but then again, that is one of the things that makes them so super.

Harley, I take 4 adults at times. E.g. for a weekend at the coast. And I fly with 3 adults and full fuel. I don't ride in the back but my passengers say the leg room is adequate. OTOH, with 2 on board an E really shines. 

 

What is you point on Vne? Too low? I often descend just below red line.

[Hank]

My C descends ~170 mph at 500 fpm, which is just below the yellow; redline is 200 mph.

Depending on year, Vne can be as low as 174 mph, right?

[Bob_Belville]

Vne for my '66E is 189 (164k)

[HRM]

From my flight manual: 189 MPH C.A.S. 

 

She will easily go faster than that. The rumor is that Mooney wanted to assign a faster speed but the FAA evaluator was afraid to push the envelope. Probably fears that the tail might come off.

[bucko]

My E was at the MAPA Convention.  It's not pretty enough (except to me) to win any beauty competitions, but TAS of 150 knots at 7-8,000 feet with a fuel flow of 8 gph (LOP, but we're not going into that) makes her my baby.

[scottfromiowa]

Yes, that's true. And for what it's worth, I too consider my early J to fall squarely in the vintage category. 36 years old this year. Hard to believe.

Jim

I for one am glad you go "slumm 'n" with us