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I’d like to know as well what the benefit has been across the fleet. I wonder if we created a poll for those who have the PF exhaust and allow them to vote what speed increase if any they saw might help. We would need to know the model it was installed on. Then again, like all Mooney speed mod topics, my F model does 210 KTAS on 2 tablespoons per hour at FL250. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Unfortunately in today’s big brother knows and sees all world, this incident was already reported on Kathryn’s Report. I agree that posting it here might be questionable by some, but it hasn’t stopped a number of these from being posted over the years. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

I now get where you are going with this. Have you tried to call José and ask if this is happening? I think it would be something that had to be asked during his certification process. Do you have a physical drawing how the factory and the extended tanks are laid out? I can’t imagine much could be cross filling into the Monroy from the main filler port. But your comment that not much comes out when you main filler port with the Monroy filled has me curious how that can happen. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

I think what you are going to find is that no matter how much fuel you have in the Monroy tank, it will show full until you burn down to a level where the outboard sender begins to move. Which with the original 64 gallon system, is 32 gallons. The way to prove this is looking at the calibration values on the JPI when you are beyond 32 gallons. The sender will be pegged at the top of the outer tank and no matter how much fuel you put in the Monroy, the calibration factor will remain the same. I may be missing something but I don’t think it can read anything in the Monroy tank. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

John - where is your second sender located? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

John - where is your second sender located? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

You guys are just jealous. [emoji16] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

I have dual MP, RPM, FF & FP gauges. What are you looking for? How everything is connected? I’m headed over to the airport in a bit and can snap some pictures. I have an EI setup on the right side which includes a FP-5L. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Yeah, Stinky Pant’s plane has been INOP for a bit now and the Yahoo NJ Mooney group has been pretty silent. Too bad you’re not closer John. I’d fly with you. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Nice video. Always enjoy seeing new destinations being posted. Looks like you have some glareshield work ahead of you [emoji6] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

There are 5 calibration points for the JPI 900 fuel gauges. The calibration assumes linearity and my experience with the 54 gallon bladder system is that it is. The factory original senders are located inboard and on some models a second sender on the outboard of the outer bay (64 gallon planes). With the Monroy system the next outer bay is used, beyond the second sender and also further up the wing dihedral. I don’t think that the sender is moved out to the end of the extended tank (and that is what John is asking) and thus the tank gauge will read full until the level gets below the outboard sender’s position. If the sender is moved to the outside of the outer bay, then there is a long distance between the outboard and inboard senders which would require a linear drop for the gauge to measure. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Was the 55X available from your instructor from a 3100 upgrade? If so, it is my understanding that they require the unit be returned. The 3100 is fully digital and with envelope protection. Worth looking into. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Yep, the servos are all the same. As for wiring, it will be more than just behind the panel. The 30’s control head is wired to the computers in the avionics bay. You would need to remove all of that and rewire it up in the front. With a 30, I wouldn’t even mess with the 55. I would go directly to the 3100. Have you found a deal on a 55X? Even if you found a deal on one, I believe Genesys still requires the units to come back before they will issue the STC for your plane. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

I don’t think there is much that is interchangeable. The 30 uses computers in your avionics bay and I believe the 55X has it all packed in the panel unit. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

You don’t know anyone who lives in Deleware. You do now know 4 who live in Delaware (Danb, Fookz, bullets and me).

Perhaps and his children Pilotoans? (Like how I combined the “o” and the “a”? [emoji23][emoji23] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Hey! Are those things I see in the baggage area your rear seat passenger’s legs? [emoji1787] How about someone post some real pictures of the room behind the seats for the various models. I know there were some comments about the baggage area being bigger on the mid bodies. I happened to have measured mine (F model). 24” Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

But I a do worry that my file sizes may be too LARGE to upload. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Even some in hi-def using wide angle lenses to get the FULL effect! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Got some new ones... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Hey! Does anyone want to see pictures of scantily clothed overweight women? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

If you are taking about the Klixon style. I would only reset it once and if it pops again, leave it out. I have replaced a number of these breakers over the 28 years I have owned my F. They seem to wear out periodically. Someone once told me to “exercise” them periodically and to pull them out and reset them. I do this about once a month and it does seem to have eliminated the premature demise of them. I do know on some planes, there is no switch and they use these breakers as the switch. Not an expert on them, but based on my experience with them, I tend not to trust them. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

I should add a comment about the photo above. This picture was taken on the burn down flight just before installing the CiES. I was burning down both tanks to roughly 5 gallons so I could drain the rest and install the CiES. When I took that picture, I had burned the fuel on the left tank down to 6 gallons on the display when that 21 gallon quantity showed up. You can see the concern. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

John - speaking from first hand experience with factory original and replacement CiES senders. The factory senders had a few issues on the JPI. The first being they weren’t very linear nor reproducible. In flight, this would lead to this error being seen frequently: Since the JPI is expecting the fuel used on a tank to match fuel remaining based on sender position, I saw this error routinely. Could be the sender was sticking as it was sloshing around or just a bad spot on the resistor surface. Whatever the cause, I saw it frequently but have never seen it with the CiES. With the CiES and the JPI, the values are extremely accurate. Although the fuel quantity is represented as whole values, Bob B pointed out the JPI raw data was in decimal format. Sure enough, when I saw 17 gallons remaining and I thought it should be 18, it is a rounding thing going on. After operating these senders for a couple of years, if the CiES is off more than 0.5 gallons, it was the human filling the tank who made the mistake and not the senders. They are just that accurate. I also wanted to respond to your question about the sloshing around of these senders. I have never seen an issue with erroneous quantity levels with the CiES. Maybe they are doing averaging or that since they are new floats, come back to the fuel level quickly, I just don’t see dancing fuel quantity like I did with the factory senders. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

John - I am one that installed CiES senders with a JPI 900. Let me start with your question on the long range tanks. If your F originally had 64 gallons usable AND has 2 senders per side in their factory positions, the best you can hope for is your JPI to read full at the 32 gallon point - regardless how much of the Monroy tank is filled. The Monroy system uses the next wing cavity outboard and the location of the factory sender is on the furthest outboard bay of the original tank. So, when you fill the plane, until you burn down fuel below 32 gallons (all theoretical values at this point), you will read full fuel. This is what is happening with Bob B’s E model that only has 1 sender per tank. I would calibrate it from the 32 gallons downward. But knowing you, you’ll have a DER out there trying to figure out where to install the sender in the Monroy tank. [emoji6] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro