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Follow up video from the pilot of the accident aircraft… video was posted on an interesting fire fighter’s YouTube channel… the Keoni the YTer specializes in firefighting aviation accidents… Pilot experienced the affects of a surprise tailwind…. Central Jersey Airport… 47N… Best regards, -a-

Way cooool rbp! EIS supplies tons of real data to work with. Amazing detail. Best regards, -a-

Great follow up Barzook! Thanks for sharing the details! Best regards, -a-

The best ones…. Are artfully cut to include words like ‘GoodYear’…. Proudly displayed. -a-

Ever compare the flight track of your plane following an analog VOR course…. Over a chart with straight lines …? Then compare that to the flight track of your plane following the GPS course… The standard width of Victor skyways is based on the accuracy of the analog system’s scalloped shapes….. We sometimes have to switch between using the VOR at the beginning of the pair to the one at the end, near the half way point…. (As charted) This is done because the plane will follow the scalloped shape outside the standard width of the Victor skyway…. Are we discussing the same thing? Best regards, -a-

To find what you wrote… click on your avatar… it lists thing you wrote…. like magic!!! -a-

Secret sauce for searching MS… Use Google and search…. mooney space ptt switch or use MS search… PTT switch, but don’t search for just PTT. The three letter words can’t be found… -a- https://mooneyspace.com/search/?q="PTT switch"&quick=1&updated_after=any&sortby=relevancy

Turtlepac for those trips where your plane doesn’t have the fuel legs that the trip requires… also rentable, it sits on the back seat, or baggage compartment… WnB is important as well… Best regards, -a-

Steve, Consider putting the date in the title line… You can edit the title line by editing the first post… the title is attached to it… The edit menu is a few dots in the righ top corner of the post…. ‘…’ Best regards, -a-

M20Ds still standing on their fixed legs are super rare! We have three in the US… I have seen two of them… (one has nice pics around here somewhere) There is another MSer currently discussing his squishy pedal challenge at the same time… Following Doc’s advice above is really helpful for finding the place where an air bubble is often trapped. Getting the bubble out will get the pedal to firm up nicely… Search for brake fluid 83232 to find that other conversation… If you can use break vs. brake properly… you automatically get an English award for MSers that like their word of the day exercise! This one catches a lot of people… that only speak English… Best regards, -a-

Great pirep affricate! Let’s see if @M20Doc has seen that bolt come loose before… (M20M oil scavenger pump) Best regards, -a-

Keep an eye out for people selling off their electric back-up vac pumps… This particular system has many limitations that are important to be aware of… It only provides the right vacuum under certain conditions… that the pilot needs to be familiar with… before it is needed. The electric back-up removes the need to adjust MP to produce good vac. of course… a back-up AI with its own battery is really good too. Best regards, -a-

The KT76C is a nice upgrade to the prior KT versions with the knobs that twist backwards from expectation…. also has a display of the pressure altitude it is reporting… -a-

Great catch, and pic! Ooops. It is not normal to have wires contacting the exhaust pipes…. Work with your mechanic to find the proper wire routing for that… or the proper method to hold the wires away from that… Exhaust gas temps 1500+°F can far exceed the degradation temperature of the most expensive wire insulation… Be on the lookout for EGT sensor routing as well… they need to be kept separate from spark plug wires, while you are moving things around… If there were a wire god… he must not have received your tithe… Best regards, -a-

I’ve run out of likes for the day…. -a-

I bought a Mooney, because the fast driving was getting too expensive….. Weather forecasting has been getting better and better with the invention of decent fast computers… @Scott Dennstaedt, PhD is always a great resource for aviation weather products… He has a few videos posted on YouTube… Gives great presentations at the usual big fly-ins… And stops by for conversations like this often…. Refundable tickets are expensive, and refundable… Some people have a million miles because they also fly in the back of a lot of commercial flights… lots of free flights available on demand that way… If you are new to GA… use extra caution… the flight out is easy to choose…. Getting back home can be several days away before your flight even starts… include weekends in your plans… Other people have a nice work from home situation… or work from a hotel when you can’t get back home because of weather… Just don’t get stuck trying to fly at night, in a thunderstorm, in icy conditions, with low fuel… because the weather forecast messed up…. Having an IR is also nice for half of the weather situations we may encounter… Ice and thunderstorms can give any GA plane a day off… Decades ago… it was hard to go away for a weekend and be back on Monday to work… with the weather forecasts that were available at the time… Start choosing your favorite forecast mechanism… and keep track of how well it works for you… start today… Start watching the H and L as they travel across the country… Watch how the fronts move with them… Know where the storms are going to cause problems… Some days the forecast has crummy weather where you want to fly… and it turns out to be crummy weather the day you are flying… Some places it is crummy in the morning… others it is crummy in the evenings… So picking time of day may be really helpful… Start with short flights… with an Uber option if you need it. Or driving your own car… PP thoughts only, not a weather bug… So much of this equation is personalized… equipment, ratings, experience, and weather knowledge… Having ADSB in onboard is always helpful… a strike finder is another resource to consider… Best regards, -a-

Sounds like somebody’s forever-plane has come to market! Good luck with the PPI! Best regards, -a-

How old are the antenna wires…? Many have been changed to the latest spec for antenna wires… nav/com issues… GPS signals are as week as signals can be… So grounding issues have come up a few times… People have found corrosion growing under the antenna… Sounds like a project for your local radio guru… looking for signs of things that can interrupt the connections… Best regards, -a-

My M20C used screws in the given holes… There were those fancy speed nuts on the other side… holding the screws in place… Once the speed nuts got lost, it takes an annual to have access to put them back… No fasteners… people slide around getting in and out of the plane… I believe the LBs use Velcro… and a plane cover to keep things from melting inside… Snaps would make a great method of holding carpets in place as well… Access to the underside of the floor is important to hold the fasteners in place… You can practice with 3M Velcro for the automotive industry… You can never unglue the glue you spread all over the place Expect to want to pull the carpet up… the first time it gets wet by something… soda, fuel leak, rain water…. Stuff happens. PP thoughts only… Best regards, -a-

Great offer Mr. Boomer! Mooney has a process of getting electronic copies of manuals out to customers… It often starts with a phone call to your favorite MSC…. Found at Mooney.com Go Mooney! Best regards, -a-

Anything newer than 1964 got a bunch of upgrades that were small, but hard to add later on… Since the question is about M20Es from 68 to 74… How they have been updated by prior owners will be more important… 1) Do you prefer the all manual plane, or all electric? 2) Do the most flush rivets impress you? 3) Do you care who owned the factory the day your plane was built? 4) Does the older end of this range have the short rudder? 5) Do you prefer the long rudder? 6) The M20E makes one of the greatest retirement planes…. Go E! Best regards, -a-

An example of a screw on cap… The Mooney electric gear switch… the post is threaded, and the big tire looking knob screws on the threaded post. Best regards, -a-

Some people have interesting ideas… 1) Why they want to take on a major refit of a flying machine…. 2) They have to have a serious driving reason to do so… like the plane has been in the family for 50 years or so… 3) Sometimes they are mechanics or machine shop owners in their professional lives… 4) Maybe they are familiar with wood working, and are EAA members already… 5) As far as costs go… there have been a few M20As listed for sale around here… and a few wings being sold… 6) Seriously… know that Mooney is still in business. And supports their customers given enough time… 7) There is a process for updating one M20 with more recent parts from a similar M20… it is more simple than the STC process… is more TC than STC… 8) Start becoming familiar with who at the Mooney factory can be helpful for your project… 9) Start collecting the details that exist for your project… maintenance manuals and parts catalogs… 10) One serious challenge… documentation has improved significantly over the years… 1958 was before the advent of CAD/Cam… and electric typewriters… What do you have to support your project? what do you need to support your project? We have a few suppliers pre-flown Mooney parts around here as well… finding a metal wing from an M20B probably isn’t that hard to do… The M20A is one of the first Mooneys to use natural composite materials to produce really aerodynamic airplane parts… Go Mooney! PP thoughts only, -a-

I can think of two resources that may have answers for this… as well as all of the mechanics on MS…. let’s invite @jetdriven and @M20Doc to see who is around on Sunday night? (Oil pressure adjustment, M20J) Best regards, -a-

Can’t tell what will happen… But, in the past…. There has been concern with the strength of the castings… Corrosion, can instigate a crack… A crack can lead to the yoke breaking, and then falling off… There is a recent example of a pilot on the internet that lost his Mooney’s yoke while flying…. Possible YouTube radio recording? There are lots of Mooney yokes that have corrosion issues where the hands rest… Salty palms apparently initiate the corrosion… Serious cracks have been found near the bolt hole for the bolt that holds the yoke in place… The FAA didn’t like dip coats for their ability to hide cracks… Most 60s Mooneys were nicely dip coated yokes from the factory… Not sure how well leather yoke coverings protect the aluminum casting from corroding… I really looong accident chain, that has low probability of occurring… But, proper cleaning and preventing corrosion is always a good idea… PP memories about stuff written on MS only… Best regards, -a-