Mcstealth

Would you consider working with an established shop, say Dugosh or Maxwell, or someone close to you, just because? Not work with an established shop, just because? Just thinking out loud....

Quote: tony I just bought my m20F last week. I'd love to get a copy of both.

Quote: hansel You'll have a great time. I'm jealous. My father is the coowner of a fishing lodge in Soldotna and raves about the backcountry all the time http://www.alaskaslastfrontier.com/ You should also check out getting a float rating with Vern in Moose Pass http://www.alaskafloatratings.com/ My primary instructor from LA fell in love with the Kenai Penninsula and decided to move up there to teach with Vern. Have fun!

Quote: Parker_Woodruff Got the airplane back today. Pablo at Aero Comfort is a real professional. It's beautiful. Don Maxwell did the install while I had another squawk taken care of. (Plane went in for a new bearing on the rudder linkage and came out with a new interior). Photos are from on the way home with my Cell phone (slightly bad quality & distortion). when I get the good camera out I'll update them...prolly tomorrow. And yes, the New Airplane Smell was included.

Taking my family to The Kenai Penninsula, Staying in Soldotna, AK to fish the salmon run, halibut charter, and dig for razor clams!!!! This my second trip, my wifes fourth, and my boys first! I hope my boys catch their limit!!! Be back on Aug 1st. David

Quote: GoDores The exact same one that was on there, a lightweight Sky-Tec 149NL. Fortunately a pretty common model and the local shop had one, although it was $150 more than from Aircraft Spruce On edit: it failed on a Sunday night 600nm away from home - this wasn't a voluntary or preventive replacement. I was stuck.

It does not hurt to talk to Richard. You tell him, or give him a wish list, and let him run with it. If he does nothing, so what? You don't stop looking just because he is. Yes he is a salesman but I say again, so what. He might fall into a deal because he is in the business, and give you a call. If you are any the business man, you can handle the/his process. My humble opinion.

Quote: rampilot Ricardo - I'm late in chiming in on this post, but if you're still looking for an Ovation, my '99 is available. Although no AC, it does have a lot of the other things you're looking for at a very attractive price point. Feel free to PM me for details. (Not sure if you got it, but I also sent you a PM this morning) Thanks and good luck in your search! ram

Quote: GoDores Thanks for the help! We were able to get the mixture cable tightened, and that appeared to solve that problem - the knob stayed still over almost 10 hours of flying this weekend. Unfortunately it looks like the ram air cable will have to be replaced. Probably won't get to that for a little while, since we had to replace the starter this weekend

I watched an interview with the owner of said $650,000 plane today. He was VERY gacious and forgiving during the interview. I am sure not everyone would have been so. Not sure wether to applaude or laugh at the man who is now "hopeful that his insurance company will treat him fairly" and that his "heart melted" when he first saw the pictures of the kid in chains...... His words!!!!!

Quote: rob I wonder if Don accepts "demys" as customers. If I were advising a business owner in today's politically charged climate, I might recommend that he avoid insulting (even in humor) a significant portion of his already focused customer base.

Dugosh in Kerrville.

"Just how hard would it be to fabricate a second door on the damn thing" is what I used to say to myself.

Quote: carusoam CRXCTE, Things to consider...... After all of the super sleuth work that you have completed, I am going with the sensor not working right at the hot end.... The temperature gauge is simply a voltage meter (calibrated in degrees F) reading the voltage difference across the variable resistance of the sensor, using the electricity provided by the ship's battery. [1] Broken wire would give a constant reading. Maximum resistance = maximum reading. [2] Shorted wire (crossed) would give the opposite, but constant reading. minimum resistance = minimum reading. [2a] No power to the gauge is certainly going to read minimum. (no voltage difference) [3] Sensor is of the variable resistor type, (thermistor). Resistance increases with temperature. [4] The sensor seems to be working, but improperly. Shows cold when cold, but shows well over heated when hot. [5] If the oil was really that hot, you would surely notice a significant drop in oil pressure. A thermocouple type thermometer from a cooking store would help you understand what the real temperature is. [6] The gauge itself could be at fault. The gauge is in the nice environment of the cockpit. The thermistor is in the harsh, hot and vibrating environment of the engine. Lastly, you may also consider that the full battery voltage may not be getting to the system (least likely, but something to consider). See item [7] battery voltage is delivered internally through the cluster gauge connector. [7] Super lastly...The indicator is reading a collective resistance of all the wire, connectors and thermistor. If the connectors have increased in resistance for some reason, the indicator will change as things warm up and then go off scale. There are two connectors to check, one at the sensor in the engine and one at the back of the instrument cluster. (this would be your lowest cost fix) Disconnect the connector, use contact cleaner, reassemble the connectors. [8] The battery voltage isn't running incredibly low is it? This would cause a whole new set of issues anyway... That's why I vote thermistor being most suspect, gauge being the next and wire/connectors being the third most suspect. Best regards, - anthony - PS. I looked up the part number for a 1965 and 66 mooney M20C and E. It is listed as bulb, oil temp AN5525-1 Aircraft spruce lists a similar one (possible identical) for $145 http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/oiltempgauges5.php If nothing else, check this website. It will give you a good idea of what you are looking for.... Jose: does this look right to you? PPS: The EGT is a thermocouple and does not look or work anything like the oil temperature sensor, other than generically it has two wires going into a metal sensor..... Best regards, -a-

Quote: jimlawjr There are several Moonies that fly out of Skypark (15G) near Wadsworth, Ohio and instructors that own M20C and M20E. The names are John and Norma Gay - both instuctors and Wes Snyder. All three are very good instructors and know the airplanes well!! Jim

Quote: trjymr I know the feeling! I just bought a 65 M20E and brought her home yesterday. Im low time and no retract time, so im still in the process of getting checked out. I love it though! It only took me 3 landing to forget GUMPS. I actually had the gear down but not locked. Thats what instructors are for though right. That wont happen again though.

Quote: rorythedog Hello and welcome. Hope you found Santa Fe enjoyable. Was your engine blowing the oil down the belly before the addition? thank you... santa fe is a great destination..we are anxious to return! flying to florida next. my engine always blew out the first two quarts..now with 8 qts. it seems to run cooler oil temp..i also o/h the oil cooler, replaced the baffling, and replaced the thermavern...or is it verna therm??-ha!

Quote: rorythedog just a note to say how much i enjoy this forum that i just discovered! i bought my '78 201 in 1995 and have flown it about 1500 hrs. over those years. on a recent summer trip from santa fe, nm to our home base in olathe, ks we trued about 155kts. at 11,500' and covered about 590 nm in 3 hrs. 50 min. on 36 gallons of avgas...not many planes other than the 201 could have done that! i just overhauled the engine at about 2250 hrs. it was running fine, but.......... one nice addition at o/h was an m20 air oil separator. it's really nice to be able to run a full 8 qts. of oil. ours is a 252 paint scheme(white/burg/gold) with round windows and an ovation pattern leather interior.

I have a friend who has a friend that knows a lot about knuckles and crowbars.... :)

Quote: 67M20F he had a airline pilot fly it for the test flight and he thought that was all normal i guess.......... He never checked the prop speed to make sure that it was right, just installed the overhauled govener and thought that was good

good luck. how come the mech didn't see these numbers or squaks in the first place?

Quote: rubixcube2k3 Just wanted to say hi and introduce myself. I'm a new Mooney owner and just closed the deal on my "New-to-Me" '75 M20C. Any long term/short term advice on care and thoughts are welcomed, as I'm experienced in electronics and mechanics, but entirely new to aircraft and their systems. Thanks!!! ~Abe PS - More Pics of interior and panel in my Gallery PSS - You can also find full specs and what-not at http://www.coastalaircraft.com/page14.php (I saved a little off the asking price for anyone into valuation)

As usual you guys are hard on the new members. :) Good luck Spanky and welcome to the best Mooney board! Do you and Buster1 have something in common?

I don't know. He is an Aggie.......Better watch what ya say about and around him :)

If you have the time, money, and determination.....