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LASAR has had my Dukes gear motor for 6 weeks now, said they had to send out to have the armature rebuilt. No clear explanation on delay or ETA. Anyone know of any other overhaul/replacement options or are the ITT motors available? Thanks

Warren, thank you.

Anyone know what is the stated warranty period on GFC500 hardware? I'm seeing recent posts on other forums related to trim servo failures but realize you mostly hear about problems vs success which tends to inflate perceived risk of occurrence. Still, getting a little worried about my pending install and might delay until more data.

Thank you all for your advice on a stormscope strikefiinder in a C model. I like the ideal of the wx500 displaying on the ifd. my 440 screen may not be large enough to provide an adequate view of overplayed strikes on the moving map but it does bypass the issue of CRT and plasma displays going bad. I also found out that the G5 HSI will not drive the slaved display on the wx950 or strikefinder. thanks for the assist.

Does anyone know if a Stormscope or Strike Finder will fit in the panel of 1974 M20C and advice on used type/model to seek out? My avionics shop is reluctant to quote over phone being concerned not enough depth behind panel to accommodate in a C model. They have not physically inspected to verify space available. I was considering combining a lightning device install with a GFC 500 & HSI install already scheduled late summer while panel opened up. Would use the hole from the CDI being removed for the HSI, pilot side, mid-panel, just right of gear handle. I do not have another suitable MFD screen to remotely display lightening info (IFD440 too small and cluttered). Thanks.

Apologies, I see Dr Google took me to the CAN site, US price still $5,100

Hi All, not sure if this reflects a recent price change but at Aircraft Spruce the Aerocruze 100 has a list price of $7,038; I was thinking it was ~5000 awhile back but I have not been following.

Mooney CFI-II, M20C (D,E,F,G,J) located in Blacksburg, VA. thanks for working on a list.

Hi Robert, take a look at FlyQ (web and app version), it does provide some optimized auto routing options using airways. As an instructor, I have experience with several of the EFB but I'm not endorsing this one over any of the others. Take a look and see if it meets your needs. Good luck. kurt

I asked my installer that very question about the G 275 and hit the same road block, Brittain not listed on the STC ;( Good question about the 430w - Brittain connection. and one I can not answer for sure, as that is what i previously had before moving to a new navigator; however, i suspect it was allowed because the CDI/HSI was listed as being approved for the Brittian as appose to the case with the G5.

As a CFI-II i work with the FSDO and know serval on 1st name basis. I contacted them and they then passed me to a gentlemen in their group who deals with these sorts of issues. He asked for the FMS/STC/Operating manuals on the Brittain AP (accuflite, accutrak and altitude hold in my case) and the G5HSI and any wiring drawing i might have showing possible connections for the interface (there are some unofficial drawings on other threads for at at least the heading bug input from a G5). He reviewed the documents and about 3 weeks later gave me call saying essentially they take a hyperconservative approach when it comes to AP integration; he did not even feel comfortable allowing just the heading bug input given lack of covering STC. Said if i wished to work with a DER to generate more data and evidence for consideration they would be happy to reconsider. I decided to stop at that point as Vance mentioned in his message due to associate costs to go down that path, feeling $ spent on the GFC probably significantly less and its an assured modern solution.

Hi FastTex, not sure which FSDO region you are in but i have the same setup and tried for a field approval with the Richmond VA branch and was turned away; reason i got on the GFC500 install wait list with a G5 hsi. good luck

Hi Lancer, if helpful, the 2nd g5HSI is not required but nice for redundancy and visualization. all you really need is the GAD29b (interfaced with your GTN navigator) and Mu11 installed with the single G5AI for all of the gfc500 AP modes; this an approved STC configruation. You will have to keep your primary CDI for horizontal and vertical guidance, the G5AI will display similar but its only advisory. My install/parts quote for adding the gad29b/mu11 to an existing G5AI was ~$2500. Good luck.

And i sent Garmin a note on this in case they wish or need to clarify. thanks again for the assistance.

John and Art, thank you. I will pass along to shop.

more details from the shop

Thanks JB, appreciate your feedback. maybe its just a nice way of declining the job I was hoping they had just looked at the wrong stc or had some outdated lit from garmin, they did say they were still waiting on exact pricing info, i'll let you know if i hear more from them.

Hi All and Happy Almost New Year, Hit a snag on scheduling my GFC500 install in a 74, M20C today. Shop called and said they are not sure my serial number is covered in the STC. They are trying to clarify but SS numbers they gave me were 2742, 2807 and later. Mine is 20-0016. Has anyone else encounter or heard of this issue with C models > 65? Thanks!

These are mine in a 74 C model, 0-360-A1D, at 6-8K, with JPI830 leaned for peak EGT. The 1st combo is my go to setting 21/23, key #44, ~55%HP, ~135kt TAS, 8.5gph.... Carson speed for the C model (~1.3 x Vg) 22/23, key #45, ~65%HP, ~140kt TAS, 9.0gph 23/23, key #46, ~75%HP, ~145kt TAS, 10.0gph

Freedom Aviation, Avionics, KLYH, they are a Mooney service center in VA. In my past experiences, Jason has always done a good job at hitting his quotes and I have been very happy with their work. https://www.flyfreedom.com/avionics.html. Mention kurt z gave them a thumbs up.

Here are the cost figures i received yesterday from my regional shop, assuming you already have 1 G5 AI installed. ADD GFC500 2 Axis with no trim GFC500 Parts: $8250 (Garmin’s base price for Mooney's is higher than advertised $6999) Labor: $4000 ADD Trim Trim Kit $2400 Labor: $1000 ADD Interface to IFR GPS/Nav box GAD29B and the GMU11 $1000 Labor: $1500 ADD 2nd G5, HSI G5 $3175 Labor: $1500

I'm sorry he did not, just the statement 65 and later; the footnote on Garmin site says the earlier models 62-64 are schedule to begin in next 12 month which implies all of the 65 models are covered. On that page there is a chat function and in perhaps the rep will be able to give you a more definitive answer. I'm still trying to understand what functionality i would get with my existing single G5 AI. My shop implied i would have to add the mu11 if i wanted to add the gad29b to allow nav function related to my IFD440. He said you cannot add the gad29b without a mu11. i thought the mu11 was only required if you added the G5HSI or wanted to follow mag heading bug with the single g5Ai setup.

Good news! My avionics guy just sent me an email, The GFC500 is now approved for the short body Mooney. This applies to aircraft made 1965 and later. the website of supported models has been updated. Celebration time. kz

Hi Steve, Agree the arrangement should work fine. However, you may encounter an STC obstacle. I have an AccuFlite & AccuTrac + Altitude hold which all work wonderfully. I have been trying to to install a G5 HSI for 2 yrs now. Many of the shops I have spoken with will not interface the G5 HSI output with the Brittain system since its not on the approved AP list for the G5. I even inquired about a field approval with my local FSDO and they were not supportive. If anyone out there knows of a shop or way to make this happen I would really appreciate your help. Thanks kurt