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Was flying with an instructor today that asked me to let him land it. He really struggled once in ground effect. the need to fly the plane all the way to the ground is contrary to trainers. keeping that attitude and letting it settle become second nature with good habits. When we went around and I greased the landing with a gusting 18knt crosswind, he said he didn’t realize how import my instructions were. I would like to try one with someone else’s plane, but I don’t feel like I need it.

Not exactly sure what you are referencing, but it it about the co ownership plan that Mooney was trying to stimulate I don’t think that ever went anywhere.

Living within one’s means is always a good idea, regardless of where the limit hits the ceiling. All that matters is that you love your plane. They are large discretionary purchases that require constant attention and money, as well as currency and proficiency requirements. If you don’t love them, you will resent each time it makes a demand. If you love them you do it happily, either way isn’t that what we work for? I can’t buy a jet, not even close, but I remember the time when I couldn’t own a Mooney either….

I avoid that airport at all costs. I landed there once to look at an e model with a friend. when I was taking off I got a good look at was around me, and if you lose an engine on take off it would be a miracle to survive. there is NO place to put it down that isn’t a building. this guy didn’t crash on takeoff, I can promise you that.

Focusing on what makes the money, hard to blame them, but I would have paid a premium for it. I could do it, but doing it requires learning a lot the hard way. id prefer to spend the time flying. I am also looking for a new referral and preferably in South Florida. I suppose you could hire a shop to install them, but that seems like it could be a real crap shoot.

Just an FYI for all those considering a new interior. I was trying to book a date with Aero Comfort to get an interior done, and they informed me that after 2024 (no available spots btw), they will no longer do removal and install. They will only accept interiors shipped to them, and will return for owner to handle install. I was very disappointed with this news….

33k for a completely new avionics panel, which can be done in a few days seems like an insanely good deal to me… that being said I just did spend 7x that and waited 13 months for my Aerostar to get a new panel… it’s all relative.

Are you saying the blue tooth signal is lost so you can’t see traffic on an iPad, or that you can’t see traffic on your g1000 If it’s that you lose traffic on the g1000, it is not a blocked Bluetooth signal. When I had this problem it was the belly antenna.

Cole aviation in Georgia is an excellent choice. there is a shuttle from Atlanta that can take you back and forth after you deliver the plane. if you would like to stay closer, Switlik aviation in ft myers is very good as well. He is not a Mooney service center, but has no problem using the 100hr guide. I have used them both more than once.

^^^^^^^^^THIS!!!!^^^^^^^^ There is a fine line between encouraging our fellow pilots to continue learning and being a busy body. I’ll encourage anyone who is receptive to learning more and I hope my pilot friends would do the same for me. I don’t enjoy hearing criticism or about my shortcomings, but I would rather hear them than hurt myself or others. I realize how my question and comments are being misconstrued as trying to instruct without credentials, but that is not what I am suggesting. If I can help a fellow pilot become safer, more proficient, and develop better awareness, I would contend that is a good thing, and does not contravene any rules at all.

It was all kind of mixed for me bc I started training for my instrument rating the day after my ppl checkride. And all of my bfr’s have been in conjunction with my ipc’s. The friends I have that are only vfr rated don’t really practice anything for inadvertent imc. it seems that regular practice using instruments to prepare for the possibility would be a good idea. Lots of opinions on the topic. Stimulating the conversation was the important part. I read a story nearly every day about this and it seems to me if people were more prepared to get themselves out of the situation it would be s good thing. What do I know, I’m not an instructor, and I can’t quote the FAR, I merely thought it was common sense….

Never said anything about filing or flying approaches. that was absolutely not the question the intent was practice using instruments to prepare for inadvertent IMC. the purpose is safety and life saving.

You are correct that you cannot purchase the upgrade new any longer, but there are always salvage boxes from other aircraft, and Garmin gives full service for any repairs. I have upgraded three non waas Mooney, two ovations and an acclaim and I had to look and wait a month or two at the longest to find the parts. With the supply chain the way it is that’s probably quicker than anything new! In addition, finding the gia63w’s myself saved me over 10k each time.

I am a big fan of the g1000., and I have never met a single person who owned one and said they wish they had something else. I suppose if I felt like the equipment was deficient I would agree with those who think it’s limiting, or I felt like it didn’t have everything required for safe operation. While it isn’t a new touch screen it is extremely robust and complete, and with flight level change and nearest you also have the precursor to “autoglide”. I guess I just disagree with those who think it detracts from the value of the plane, but to each their own.

The g1000nxi is already certified in the ultra so the logical and economical step is for them to clear that path. Just like Cessna, and beech have done. if Mooney closes for good it will happen because garmin can do it, and there are enough planes out there to make it worth the expense. Or Mooney can do it which they have shown zero appetite for in spite of what they could earn there has been speculation that they still owe Garmin money so that may be the hurdle. It will happen eventually.

That’s fair, I could have said practice instead for the purpose of clarity, and to avoid nitpicking. (topic has been edited)

I don’t see a conflict with the rule and what I said. I suggested flying with s friend in simulated instrument conditions. Did you think I meant flying in actual imc?

You realize that’s exactly what a safety pilot is right? They are not required to be an instructor and we have almost all done if for someone at some point. My “intention” when I thought about this, was to save his life if he found himself in inadvertent IMC, not to embolden him to make a bad decision. Such is the quandary, and the root of the question.

I watched this documentary on JUUL the e-cigarette maker, and what struck me was how far off intent their mission went, and the deleterious effects. Some people really found a way to quit smoking using the product, but an enormous amount of children started using, which was not the impetus behind the invention. Point being, do you provide the information to those who would respect it and use it properly, as in an inadvertent entry into imc, to prevent hurting themselves, knowing that some would simply use it to abuse the privilege. Obviously getting the ticket and maintaining currency is ideal, part of me thinks it should be part of a ppl, but that would be a pretty hotly debated topic.....

On the heels of that painful atc conversation with the pilot who was struggling… I don’t mean to bash the guy, just analyzing what I heard it’s hard to believe they were fresh a ticket holder, not only did he sound lost but that flight path and inability to even conform to a vector was inexcusable It made me think about a friend of mine that is cautious and has good self limits. He will not likely ever get his IFR, nor own a plane. He would never illegally file IFR, but may very well find himself in unanticipated IMC. My first thought was to do some actual IFR training with foggles and hood time. Make him feel the spacial disorientation and how easily it can happen, as well as what to do if you think it is happening. Sounds practical on its face, but then made me wonder if familiarizing people to this extent, would make them more risk prone out of perhaps confidence, or safer due to understanding of the consequences. I wanted to take a poll and hear the brain trusts thoughts. Is it better to do it to protect all of the cautious among us, or deign to the more risk prone?

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I tend to agree, I think I’m very dubious of continental saying it isn’t necessary.

This seems ambiguous in a SB…. ”Following any propeller strike, complete disassembly and inspection of all rotating engine components is mandatory and must be accomplished prior to further flight. Inspect all engine driven accessories in accordance with the manufacturer’s maintenance instructions.” Is it mandatory or not?

My understanding was that both lycoming and continental have an AD that any prop strike requires an engine tear down. I was looking at a plane for a friend today, the broker said there was a partial nose gear collapse on taxi eleven years ago. He told me continental “reviewed the incident, and decided no inspection was required”. But they changed the prop due to damage from sudden stoppage. This does not sound right at all… Has anyone ever heard of this? Did I misunderstand the AD?

I think it’s regard to raw dollars you are correct, but given that aviation is a discretionary cost, there are a lot of other factors that really should be considered, at least I believe so for my choice. Convenience, being able to fly when I wanted to, not when a flight school plane was available. Proficiency, I firmly believe that the plane you spend the most time in, will be what you are inevitably most proficient. I did not want to spend 200+ hours in a 172 only to have to transition to my real forever plane. Want, since this is discretionary, why would one settle? I think it’s important to really love your plane. If you do you will not resent the expense to maintain to a high standard, and since you don’t need it you get to decide. Mission, my mission is about 600 miles, a slow plane was not an option. We rented a 172 to go look at a commander years ago. The plane was a three hour drive, so we decided to fly. With a 40knt headwind it took us over two hours to fly there. That made my decision to get a Mooney that day. Reducing a passionate hobby to money alone is a reverse rationalization of “I’ll save money traveling by buying a plane”. Truth is, if you find yourself at either extreme, you’ve gone too far! You only live once, get what you want!