PeteMc

Care to document your source???? I think you're mixing up money for Runways, lighting, etc. And, maybe at some airports it is paid 100%, but I really doubt it and would want to see the documentation. And even if the airport(s) you're talking about it was 90%, that additional 10% could be a pretty big chunk of money for some small municipalities. You see the same thing on Interstate highways when you cross a county or state line. The materials and construction changes as the local money just isn't there. Then there is the Operating budget. To my knowledge, Federal money CAN NOT be used to cover operating expenses, so that's all on the local taxpayers. I get you want a free ride and don't want to pay anything. But those days are over, just like 75cent AvGas. Look at anything you pay for, the costs everywhere are way up from days gone by.... Some fees are up front, others are just burried in the cost of the item. ADDED: And again we're not talking about the JFK, ORD, LAX, etc., airports in major metropolitain areas. Those are profit centers and that shouldn't surprise anyone. They're going to jack the prices up to whatever the market will bare, be it shop rents, gate fees to the airlines, rent paid by the car rental companies, etc.

Well... Don't equate the Landing Fees I paid at my airport back east as East Only. True, my airport (FRG) had a $2.50 landing fee. Still the same amount when I left decades later. But back in the early days, the majority of the fees I ran into were while I was on Cross US flights. A lot more mid sized airports seem to have either a Landing Fee or some sort of Useage Fee from whatever municipality that owned the airport than I ever ran across "back east" (at least back then).

Yea, that's why I mentioned the lease revisions. For years it wasn't a thing because the airports didn't want to get into managing them. In recent years it was becoming a big thing, but I'm wondering if they're realizing with the staff and maintenance requirements that THEY are now responsible for, that it is changing back. Getting rid of staff and overhead is what most businesses are looking at these days. Much better to make your money with no expenses (e.g. lease the land), and then just put in requirements for maintenance that's on the tenenant that will keep the cycle going.

I don't think most airports are renting hangars. They do the land lease... which is only at land lease pricing. Then you build your own hangar for your plane or you build a few hangars and rent/lease them out. That's where the higher prices come from for the hangars due to the construction, taxes, etc. And I'm not saying some airports don't build their own hangars (or had a lease revision) and rent them, just that most don't.

Very valid reason for keeping the airport open, IF it is just a little in the Red. But if it is a major draw on the local tax base and roads, schools, etc., are hurting, the revenue you're mentioning won't put a dent in what "Podunk" has to earn on its own. And fuel, unless they add a pretty big local tax, is not a lot of profit for the airport. But you need a lot of volume to really make an impact. How many people will go to Podunk if they have low volume and are charging $6.50 and the other airport near by (or in my case, just over the boarder with less taxes) is charging easily 50 cents cheaper. Where do you fill up? So there's that much less revinue for Podunk. I don't like Landing Fees, but I've been paying for 40+ some years when I was back east. If they're fair/reasonable, no problem. And I don't have a problem with someone using newer technology to let some "V" company take 20% or even 50% of the fees if there is income to keep a small field open. ALL of the Fees (Gross Income) collected at these airports probably still would never cover the cost of an individal's salary and (required) benifits. So there's no way they could have this revenue without a company like "V". So pay a fee, or loose the airport...

Yes. There are some other discussions on this already going on. So you may want to check them out to see what others have said. Here's probably the most active thread: https://mooneyspace.com/topic/51783-ff-dynamic-procedures/#comment-916091

Apparently FF has been working on this for a while and there were some people test flying it for them last year. But I guess Garmin beat them too the release. Maybe they knew they'd both be releasing their versions of the updated Procedures at OSH and Garmin wanted to be the ones out there first to be compared to.

Still love your car. Was talking to my friend that had one in HS. All original, but he put the original weels in the garage and had Cragars on his.

We were kind of in a rush and I didn't want to take pics and post them without getting permission. Though we did end up speaking (I believe) to the owners briefly, so I should have asked. Maybe they are here and will post pics??? Nice planes!

Who knew there were a bunch of Mites flying around Eastern WA! Went to the Deer Park (KDEW) Fly-In today and as we were leaving I saw a distinctinve, but small, tail down at one of the hangars. I found not one but TWO airworth Mites there with a band playing in the hangar. Turns out the woman on the keyboard also has yet another Mite, so three in the general area. Of the two there, one had a metal prop and one still had a wooden prop. Makes me wonder if WA is the Mite captal of the world!!!

I remember the one I went to being in the hangar and it was a walk around the plane discussing each item we could maintain and what to use on that particular part. When we got to some thing that was an A/P item, he discussed what to make sure was being done. This were the pointers for if you were not going to a real Mooney shop that already knew.

Weren't Jerry's Maintenance Clinics held on the Sunday after the PPPs. I remember that they were an excellent source of info for non mechanic owners to not just go over what maintenance they could do but also what products to use. Which pre the boom of the Internet, it was tough to get that info quickly if you were going to start a new project. He also reviewed a lot of the Mooney specific items we should know about to be able to discuss a maintenance plan with your mechanic, if they did not work on a lot of Mooneys. Great program that would be great to bring back to the PPPs.

@Pinecone @Ragsf15e Thanks, that's the way I saw it, but it never hurts to confirm.

If this was mentioned, sorry I missed it. But in a couple of weeks (July 18th?) the 6 month inspection option goes away. This was originally put in place because of the shortage of the bands, which I believe has now been resolved. And also missed this if it was mentioned. Since the new bands are "different" than the original one and has a new Part#, I'm assuming the AD does not apply. True?

Forgetting the logs for a moment. What state and what kind of sales contract was signed? Does it state the aircraft is airworthy? I get that it may also state "as is" but the catch is if it is claimed to be "Airworthy" or not. For the attorney, my guess is this is more of a contract issue, but then an Aviation Attorney that is good with contracts won't get lost in the aviation jargon and the other side tossing out Regs.

The all women's Air Race Classic starts today... though there are apparently Wx delays and the first stop of the race has been eliminated due to Wx. Routing for our home town team, the Sky Queens, who happen to be out of SFF, the final destination airport of the race. Also of note, they did a video of most of the planes lined up in team order. There were a number of Mooneys in there.... Let's see how the handicapping works out.

I'll toss my vote in for the GI-275 if the budget will allow. Much better instrument in my opinion. You may also look at what the G5 options are down the road (auto pilot, etc.) and what the GI275 is capable of. When you consider the wiring, etc. will the G5 lock you into limitations that you'll end up spending much more down the road replacing it (even if there is some resale value) and then having to rewire for the GI275.

Just to confirm since the phone is new... Have all the DBs completed downloading on the phone? You may be looking at Online maps and not from the DB on the phone.

Most of the time I just deal with the heat. But when I was taking trips down south or even down to the Cayman Islands, I had a cigarette lighter fan that we plugged in. Just something to get the air moving. When we started pulling out onto the runway we'd pull that out and shut the door, so it was not long until we'd start getting some air from the airspeed. And I have a friend that put in one of those Cool Scoops (I think that's the name) and he's happy with that. But most of the air is hitting the pilot. (Good for him, not so much for everyone else. )

Does your POH show both? My K manual shows both "XXXmph (XXXkts)" so years ago when I needed to get my ASI worked on I checked with the FSDO and they said it was fine to have it changed to knots since my POH shows both.

Ah come on... You can move those around and block a little more of the view out the window...

I remember issues from a while ago with a Software release. Do you have the latest software in your GTN and your Transponder (GTX345?). Also as @hypertech mentioned, you may be receiving delayed TIS-B info from a ground station. Does the ghost plane disappear after a little while? That would be typical of a TIS-B latency issue that the GTN eventually resolved on its own. From there you go down the rabbit hole. Have you looked at the Public ADS-B Performance Report (PAPR) to see if your output is within standards?

I don't see the usual indication that your original message was edited. But are you saying the "Asking $155,500.00 US" is the new price, not what you originally posted? And if that's not the price, I don't see any links to a website or anything else that would show me the price.

What is the current price just out of curiosity (as a fell 231 owner). And isn't the summer time a good selling time? Or does it not really matter what time of year for planes?

V shaped hunk of cardboard or I know some people that have a piece of plastic rain gutter that's been cut down to fit in there and can then be reused.