PeteMc

Well... In @Joseph Long's defense... This is a discussion about the MAPA PPP, not the Summit.

Thanks all !!

I went though some of the old discussions on what to use on a hangar floor, but what about the prep? I didn't see much on that, just the various products to paint and/or use to seal the floor. My new to me hangar has some stains and painted lines on the floor. Nothing is oily to the touch, but I'd like to make sure I get the floor as clean as possible before I paint. Anyone have any good products or suggestions on the process. One guy I talked to swore by Coke (the drink ).

As others have said, probably time for new belts if they are the originals. Issue with the the shoulder strap coming off is probably because the little nylon (maybe plastic) O-Ring that fits around the tab on the main buckle has broken off. It can be replaced, but again, pending the age you may just want to have everything replaced.

If they said what Altitude their system was good up to, I missed it. But I've heard some of the other systems like this really only give you a little boost as you get up above 12K, which is really where you need it.

I used to live at SL for years, I would just turn my Oxymizer flow up a bit (maybe 500' or so) and never had a problem. If you can control your flow, you might try that.

But you still have to hope they did it right. After my interior was done they had a local shop re-weight and redo the W&B. When they sent me the numbers I plugged them in and discovered that I could not fly in the plane alone without 200# in the luggage compartment. They had used the wrong number or measuring point for the nose wheel (even though I had warned them it was not like a Piper...) so the rest of the math was all wrong. New one seems similar to the last W&B, but I think at some point I'm going to have it done again to see if a different shop comes up with the same "new" numbers.

Ethical may not be the right question, I'd want to know the statistics. For all the planes that have landed on roadways, let's limit that to busy roadways, how many serious injuries have their been to the auto occupants? I think I heard one study that said it was negligible, but I couldn't find it in a quick search. (Might have been something Paul Bertorelli as he's big time into statistics). Although a plane may come in 50MPH faster than the cars (on some roads) and be flying right over the top of them. The plane is eventually going to slow to land. At that point I'm *assuming* the cars ahead that have no clue the plane is there will keep pulling away as they have no reason to break. The cars way back will see all this going on and will/should be slowing. Now the cars right as the plane slows is the tricky part, but I think the reason I've heard of very few injuries is that most of the time the car sees the plane coming down on it's hood and slams on the breaks. And yes, there are ones like above where it doesn't work out and there is some damage. But again, NO INJURIES. NOTE: Would love it if someone has any real data on this!

Yea the Search function here is not very good. I've been reminded a few times (sorry now I'm blanking on who told me) to just do a Google search, but for here. So I just stuck in "OAT Sensor: mooneyspace.com" and came up with: https://mooneyspace.com/topic/42326-oat-probe-location/

Regardless of what they say, check with your own insurance company. And also ask them if they've heard of the group, you never know.

Never assumed they used the same one, but I'm guessing it is a small market. So that's why I was wondering. And DO most shops use some sort of AD Software? That is a question I'm curious about that came out of this discussion. I don't know yet, but I'm about to find out when I go to a new shop for the first time in decades. One of the big downsides of moving, no real "Mooney" shop here. I know they work on Mooneys and the top guy seems like he knows what he's doing, as does the one guy that I meet that works for him. But I'm guessing it's still going to be an adventure....

You mean a specific list in the Logbook or in the AD Service I'm think most shops are using now days? And if you're in a shop I'm curious, if you know, are most shops now are using an AD Service or not? And if you're using some sort of Software, at the end of the Annual does your system print out a current AD List for the Logbook?

Maybe I'm wrong on this based on the few shops I've been in that others I know go to (I went to the same shop for years). But all of them seem to now subscribe to an AD Service (maybe the same one). I think they sort of had to move to this or have a huge stack of paper and spend hours and hours to keep their local records up to date for all the ADs for the planes they're servicing. My logbook stickers, that I'm pretty sure is printed by the same software that has the ADs, makes note of everything that was complied with. So if I go to a new shop, they just look up my S/N for what's needed for my plane and confirm that I'm up to date as of the last Annual. And I'm NOT against AdLog, I think it was an excellent option when it came out, but there's no reason to duplicate the cost. That single plane service has grown to a service that contains all planes that the shop now pays for vs the pilot. (Well, they directly pay for it and we get the cost added back into the hourly rate. ) So in theory you can travel to any shop you want to and not have an issue.

Before you pay for AdLog, check with your shop to see if they already subscribe to an AD system, most do now days. If they do, then no need to duplicate the cost for AdLog. But you can pick up 3-Ring binder notebooks to have the similar Airframe, Avionics, Prop, etc., etc. system which is nice when looking up different things. If you work with a local IA/Mechanic that obviously isn't going to pay the expense of the AD system, then you might consider AdLog as it will give the mechanic a full list of what they need to check every year for YOUR plane (by S/N I believe). I had AdLog years ago before my shop got it's own system for All Planes and it worked great with the list every year of what needed to be checked by date or time and if new ADs came out that year. (At least that's how I remember it working.)

TSA can require it based on where the airport is, number and size of planes, etc. The Apt I used to be at also apparently spent well over $100K (maybe it was $200K) to install high end Aircraft Cable and a high end padlock to EVERY tail tiedown to prevent theft.... Of course this was attached to the $10 tie down hook on most GA planes and no locks for the bigger jets that could actually carry a payload.

I don't understand why that AIRPLANE keeps coming down to ruin our walk on this nice AIRPORT RUNWAY???....

Click on the three dots in the upper right of your message ( ... ) and then Edit. You should be able to rotate or flip it.

Do they enter via a road or is the Airport open and they just walk in anywhere? If they walk in at a more confined area, put up some decent size sings they have to actually walk around that have some official sounding warning. AIRPORT RUNWAY, TAXIWAYS AND ADJACENT GRASS AREAS ARE NOT SAFE TO WALK ON. THESE SPACES ARE FOR AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS ONLY! LANDING AIRCRAFT MAY NOT SEE YOU AND CANNOT MANEUVER TO AVOID YOU!!!

It's a pretty big debate and when I first got my Mooney I was taught to lock it. But as time went on and I read more and when to seminars, including PPPs, it started to emerge that the people that had a Baggage Door open in flight either admitted they probably didn't latch it properly or they were not sure if they latched it properly. And the number of Baggage Doors opening in flight seems to be VERY small. So there does not seem to be a reason to lock it. On the other side for NOT locking it is the "what if" you go down and are knocked out and the main door is blocked or jammed. If it happens to be a real 1st Responder, they probably have something to pry open the door or go through a window. But more times than not, the first person there is probably some living or driving by. Their only option might be the Baggage Door, but NOT if it's locked. NOTE: There are times when the Baggage Door latching mechanism actually breaks and both pins do not extend into the door frame. But that is easily discovered by the appropriate TUG on the Baggage Door. And locking won't really help if the pins did not fully extend. I learned this the hard way back when I was locking the door. (But no serious damage. Kept the speed down as I came around the pattern. Those hinges are pretty strong.)

Same reason that after a short period of clocks switching to be only digital, there was a big move back to have a lot of clocks have both hands and numbers. Now I look for the Altitude Bug, but wish they had designed the tapes more like the combo clocks. Maybe with a circle around the Altitude with some bright dots. Or even just one dot for the Hundreds.

I'll check it out next time I'm at the Airport. Interesting that it is not in their Pilot Guide, but then it wouldn't be the first time someone came up with some non standard name so you can't search for what you're really looking for.

I've never seen a option where I can increase the Airspeed or Altitude Fonts. And I don't know what the original Aspen had for Turn Rate, Inclinometer, Climb/Descent, etc. Yes, they made big changes in the Max. But the video mentions the hardware with a much better display and video card. Also a much better processor. But Font enlargement would be on the software side. So if there's something I've missed where is it? ADDED: I did just get the latest Software, so to make sure it wasn't a difference in my old SW and the latest I just went to the Aspen site and the Pilot Guide that says "NEW" next to it. Searched for "font" and "character" and there were zero entries. Searched for "size" and there were three entries, none of which had to do with the Font/Characters on the display.

I get that they certified it a certain way... But it's been years and even though I don't know much about the certification process, I can't see them having to start from scratch to enlarge basically ALL of the numbers and indicators like VSI, TC, etc. They're allowed to make Software modifications, so I would address it as just a SW modification of the graphics. Hey ASPEN! If you're here, get on with it! The graphics improvements are WAY overdue. Increase to the screen pixels was nice, but a crisper tiny line just doesn't cut it.

It was one of the comments I heard when I was redoing my panel. So the one original flight instruments I kept was the Turn Coordinator. I am trying to make myself look at the Aspen though to get used to it. Not sure what I'd put in where the TC is now, but if it fails, I may look to see what's out there vs replacing it.

Did you open the Pilot Window?