triple8s Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 I was reading through the stuff available on Lasar's site looking for the shoulder belt STC and started to wonder. Upon looking at the STC to put the IO-360 in place of the O-360 I cant help but wonder why or if someone had ever put the TCM on the front of a short body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co2bruce Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 I think the Rocket and Middle is just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co2bruce Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Missile (sorry) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sreid Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 I think he means short body as in the C/E models. I don't think anyone has done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z W Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Closest thing may have been the M20T Predator with a Lycoming AEIO-540. Supposedly one heck of a 2-place cross-country cruiser, but it had the larger tail from the M22 Mustang, a stick for controls, and a sliding canopy, so not really your standard "short body" Mooney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaV8or Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 I think the OP means the Continental IO-360, not the big bore engines. I have never heard of a Mooney with a NA small bore Continental. What would be the advantage? Smoother and no camshaft rot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Fox Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 I think the OP means the Continental IO-360, not the big bore engines. I have never heard of a Mooney with a NA small bore Continental. What would be the advantage? Smoother and no camshaft rot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Missiles and Rockets are a nice way to add max power to mid bodied Mooneys. Midwest Mooney 310hp upgrades with Top Prop 3 bladers from Hartzell are nice additions to long bodies. Continental and Hartzell Turbo normalizers can be added to the short bodies. M20turbos and ??? Most of these are more expensive than you can imagine. But if you have been flying for a few years, you have gotten used to that already. Did I get them all? Did I miss any? Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triple8s Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Yep I meant the small TCM, I am perfectly happy with the Lyc till I get up high and run out of MP. I dream of a turbo but hear lots of stories about turbos and the maintenance woes they "supposedly" have. That being said, I love the manual gear and I know my plane so I'm not looking to trade but I have flown a 231 and love the way it will just keep right on climbing. Seems like someone would have done a conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Flying in the flight levels takes on additional responsibility. Maintaining the hardware is important but maintaining oxygen levels, staying out of ice and thunderstorms becomes more important as well... These tools are all available, and so is the training. None of it is low cost.... Accept the ability to share ideas here! Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaV8or Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Yep I meant the small TCM, I am perfectly happy with the Lyc till I get up high and run out of MP. I dream of a turbo but hear lots of stories about turbos and the maintenance woes they "supposedly" have. That being said, I love the manual gear and I know my plane so I'm not looking to trade but I have flown a 231 and love the way it will just keep right on climbing. Seems like someone would have done a conversion. I guess you're asking about putting a TCM TIO-360, like that is found in either the 231, or 252, into a M20C, or G? The obvious problem is cost vs. performance. Converting the M20G makes about zero sense, so we'll discount that. Converting an M20C might make a little flight level rocket ship due to it's lighter weight and less wetted surface area and so worthy of consideration. The problem is, what one would have to pay for this project. It would require the engine, prop, cowling and accessories from an M20K, or at least the engine and prop with a new cowling. There would also have to modifications to deal with CG issues, like relocating the battery to the back. The cost of all these mods would I'm sure would well exceed the cost of buying a nice 252. The turbo C would in theory be a tiny bit faster than the 252, much like the E with a 201 cowl is faster than the 201, but the small speed increase would cost many thousands of dollars per knot increase. The huge majority of Mooney owners, known to be frugal, would simply trade for a 231, or 252. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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