Looking for a governor (H-1, PCU5000)

[lithium366]

In the middle of a major overhaul, my current governor contaminated and does not pass test on a stand, looking for a reasonably priced replacement (H-1 or PCU5000) in a verified condition (not contaminated, not after prop strike)

Edited December 10, 2023 by lithium366

[Jetdriver]

I bought a new one from Precision Propellor Service in Boise last year. Was about 3 AMU as I recall, didn't strike me as too outrageous. 

[PT20J]

Dan Long and West Coast Governor Service is my go to guy. He once hunted up a used McCauley governor for me, bought it, overhauled it and then sold it to me for a fair price.

[lithium366]

52 minutes ago, PT20J said:

Dan Long and West Coast Governor Service is my go to guy. He once hunted up a used McCauley governor for me, bought it, overhauled it and then sold it to me for a fair price.

I was told to stay away from West Coast Governor (by another governor shop that is highly recommended on Mooneyspace) because they don’t use good parts for overhauls

Edited December 10, 2023 by lithium366

[47U]

2 hours ago, lithium366 said:

In the middle of a major overhaul, my current governor contaminated and does not pass test on a stand, looking for a reasonably priced replacement (H-1 or PCU5000) in a verified condition (not contaminated, not after prop strike)

What make governor are you replacing?  The application chart for the ATH-1 is approved to replace Hartzel governors…

 

[lithium366]

10 minutes ago, 47U said:

What make governor are you replacing?  The application chart for the ATH-1 is approved to replace Hartzel governors…

 

Correct. That is the PCU5000 part number I am looking to buy. Decided to see if someone is selling before I buy new or overhauled from a governor shop

Edited December 10, 2023 by lithium366

[47U]

1 minute ago, lithium366 said:

Correct? That is the PCU5000 part number I am looking to buy. Decided to see if someone is selling before I buy new or overhauled from a governor shop

Sorry to not be clear… 

The Hartzel governor control cable penetrates the firewall on the copilot’s side.  The Woodward and McCauley governor’s control cable penetrates the firewall on the pilot’s side.  The cable support brackets are different and the clocking of the control arm on the Hartzel governor is opposite that of the Woodward and McCauley governors.  As long as your old governor is a Hartzel, you should have the right setup for installing an ATH-1.

[lithium366]

6 minutes ago, 47U said:

Sorry to not be clear… 

The Hartzel governor control cable penetrates the firewall on the copilot’s side.  The Woodward and McCauley governor’s control cable penetrates the firewall on the pilot’s side.  The cable support brackets are different and the clocking of the control arm on the Hartzel governor is opposite that of the Woodward and McCauley governors.  As long as your old governor is a Hartzel, you should have the right setup for installing an ATH-1.

I had a Hartzell H-1. I thought ATH-1 will use the same bracket while McCauley will require another bracket from Lazar. This is why I am looking for either same H-1 as I had or ATH-1 PCU5000. Am I missing something?

Edited December 10, 2023 by lithium366

[47U]

Just now, lithium366 said:

I had a Hartzell H-1. I thought ATH-1 will use the same bracket while McCauley will require another bracket from Lazar

That is the correct answer.  A new ATH-1 will come with the adapter plate to mount the existing control cable support arm.  The mount studs will have to be changed, but they also come with a new governor.  

Your original post didn’t say who made the governor you’re replacing… but you’re obviously on top of your situation.  Good luck in your search.

[Andy95W]

8 hours ago, lithium366 said:

I was told to stay away from West Coast Governor (by another governor shop that is highly recommended on Mooneyspace) because they don’t use good parts for overhauls

Any proof of that, or just hearsay?

[N201MKTurbo]

8 hours ago, lithium366 said:

I was told to stay away from West Coast Governor (by another governor shop that is highly recommended on Mooneyspace) because they don’t use good parts for overhauls

I think they do fantastic work and their customer service is top notch.

Maybe they don’t use new parts, but neither does Lycoming and Continental on factory reman engines.

[Dialed In]

I had a terrible experience with west coast governor last year when I purchased my new pcu-5000. I will never do business with them again. The guys that manufacture the pcu, APS, however are top notch and have fantastic service. Find someone other then west coast to buy it from though. 

[lithium366]

1 hour ago, Andy95W said:

Any proof of that, or just hearsay?

Guy who told me that apparently dealt with a lot of governors sold by west coast governors. For some reason he particularly said not to go with them and my understanding that customer experience might be good but not their governors. Glad to hear that it’s not everyone’s opinion tho

Edited December 10, 2023 by lithium366

[PT20J]

56 minutes ago, N201MKTurbo said:

I think they do fantastic work and their customer service is top notch.

Maybe they don’t use new parts, but neither does Lycoming and Continental on factory reman engines.

They used a PMA bearing in my overhaul that saved me from the AD McCauley had on its bearings. Lots of shops use PMA parts.