kerry Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Induction duct part# 600064 that goes between airbox and air cleaner seems impossible to get. SWTA says there's a 5 week back order. That 5 weeks has been 3 month now. I contacted lasar and they say good luck getting one and recommended wrapping the worn out duct with gorilla tape. My question is has anyone made their own duct and if so can you give me details. Quote
Piloto Posted November 19, 2011 Report Posted November 19, 2011 Bring the duct to an engien shop or auto parts or marine parts store and see if they have a match. I found marine components to be more rugged and reliable than aviation components. José Quote
Steve65E-NC Posted November 19, 2011 Report Posted November 19, 2011 Kerry, If you included your model and year you might get some useful advice. Quote
Shadrach Posted November 19, 2011 Report Posted November 19, 2011 Quote: kerry Induction duct part# 600064 that goes between airbox and air cleaner seems impossible to get. SWTA says there's a 5 week back order. That 5 weeks has been 3 month now. I contacted lasar and they say good luck getting one and recommended wrapping the worn out duct with gorilla tape. My question is has anyone made their own duct and if so can you give me details. Quote
DaV8or Posted November 19, 2011 Report Posted November 19, 2011 Quote: Steve65E-NC Kerry, If you included your model and year you might get some useful advice. Quote
kerry Posted November 19, 2011 Author Report Posted November 19, 2011 Quote: Piloto Bring the duct to an engien shop or auto parts or marine parts store and see if they have a match. I found marine components to be more rugged and reliable than aviation components. José Quote
fantom Posted November 19, 2011 Report Posted November 19, 2011 Quote: Steve65E-NC Kerry, If you included your model and year you might get some useful advice. Quote
kerry Posted November 19, 2011 Author Report Posted November 19, 2011 Quote: fantom If we all included year and model it would assist EVERYONE, clarify both questions and answers, and add value to the archives. The Beech people do it, heck even the Cezzzna (CPO) folks do it. To much to expect from some Mooney drivers, I guess. Quote
Piloto Posted November 19, 2011 Report Posted November 19, 2011 Quote: kerry Jose' Have you seen one of these similar ducts at a marine store. Kerry Quote
Mooneymite Posted November 19, 2011 Report Posted November 19, 2011 I replaced this duct some years ago on my 'C' model. I had a terrible experience with it: after spending an exhorbitant amount of money for it, it got a hole in it almost immediately. I contacted a manufacturer's rep who told me a couple of things. Based on the serial number, this particular duct had apparently been sitting on a vendor's shelf for years and years and was quite old when I got it. Second thing (after a lot of back and forth discussion), the rep told me the manufacturer's cost of the duct was about $10 including manufacturing, inventoring, shipping and handling. However, they had an iron-clad agreement to only sell at Mooney prices through the Mooney network, and "NO", he could not sell me one. I suspect that if Mooney would "let go" of this item, we could get them easily/cheaply. Regardless of where you come up with one, try to make sure it hasn't been sitting for years and years. Patching/repairing may seem like the only way to go, but consider the negatives if the patch/repair material gets sucked into the carb! '74 M-20C. Quote
Steve65E-NC Posted November 19, 2011 Report Posted November 19, 2011 After twenty years of ownership of my E-Model, I have about four similar sitting with tears and holes. I think it is dangerous to use a caulk like RTV or small patches where a wad might break off and go into the engine. If I were going to repair small holes in one I might lean toward something like 2" High-voltage, self-bonding, extra thick tape, with removable paper liner. With an emphasis on full wraps. It is available at Granger or your local professional electric supplier. It is impressive stuff. If you need a new one, you might want to give All American a try. Quote
DaV8or Posted November 20, 2011 Report Posted November 20, 2011 Quote: kerry Sorry, I have a 59' m20a. It's the same duct use in a B,C and G. Quote
DaV8or Posted November 20, 2011 Report Posted November 20, 2011 Quote: Mooneymite I suspect that if Mooney would "let go" of this item, we could get them easily/cheaply. Regardless of where you come up with one, try to make sure it hasn't been sitting for years and years. Quote
DaV8or Posted November 20, 2011 Report Posted November 20, 2011 Quote: Steve65E-NC If you need a new one, you might want to give All American a try. Quote
Ron McBride Posted November 20, 2011 Report Posted November 20, 2011 I am doing a top overhual on my F right now. My induction boot is bad, it is not possible to see the damge to the boot when it is installed on the plane, you must pull the lower cowl and put the boot into your hands, then look at it. I do not want to patch it, I am wondering about putting a scat tube over it untill a new one can be aquired. Any thoughts on this? Please Also, When I get a new on to install, put a scat over the new one to help protect it? Any thoughts, Please ?? Are there any other suggestions, Ideas??? Thanks Ron Quote
kerry Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Posted November 20, 2011 Quote: N9154V I am doing a top overhual on my F right now. My induction boot is bad, it is not possible to see the damge to the boot when it is installed on the plane, you must pull the lower cowl and put the boot into your hands, then look at it. I do not want to patch it, I am wondering about putting a scat tube over it untill a new one can be aquired. Any thoughts on this? Please Also, When I get a new on to install, put a scat over the new one to help protect it? Any thoughts, Please ?? Are there any other suggestions, Ideas??? Thanks Ron Quote
Steve65E-NC Posted November 20, 2011 Report Posted November 20, 2011 Ron, The E and F boot you need is a completely different part than the one Kerry is having trouble sourcing. I understand that it was a little redesigned in the past few years to make it wear better. Stocks were put in place at that time. I think Lasar or other MSCs can supply you. I think I last paid over $350. I can't see how you would put scat tubing over this short rectangular cross section part. However, I am thinking of wraping my next new one with the heavy electrical, self bonding that I mentioned above, right from the start. And maybe at my next annual in any case. I usually see just a few small wear holes when failure starts. Quote
Ron McBride Posted November 20, 2011 Report Posted November 20, 2011 Steve I have checked Don Maxwell, Top Gun, Laser, Joey Cole and SWTA. All say 5 weeks. 5 weeks from when??? I think that if I took the wire out of the scat tube, Maybe with a little language help, I could slip one under the brackets that hold the duct into place. Then drill the scat so that the bolts can still thru. I think that the wire would not be needed, there would not be much vacuum on the scat. Ron Quote
kerry Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Posted November 20, 2011 Quote: DaV8or Thread creep alert! We don't hear much from the truly vintage owners and I'm curious as to what a wooden Mooney is actually like? Quote
Clarence Posted November 20, 2011 Report Posted November 20, 2011 I think that I may have a duct in my inventory for a carburetor Mooney, I'll check tomorrow. Clarence Tri-City Aero Quote
Clarence Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 I just check and I do have the duct in stock, p/n 600064-000. Date stamped on it is 2Q10 Rev. H Who ever needs it can email me at: service@tricityaero.com. I'm not sure what the pricing on it is but it will be more than in the US. It just reflects the shipping and customs cost I have to pay from Mooney in the US to Canada. Clarence Quote
DaV8or Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 Quote: Clarence I just check and I do have the duct in stock, p/n 600064-000. Date stamped on it is 2Q10 Rev. H Who ever needs it can email me at: service@tricityaero.com. I'm not sure what the pricing on it is but it will be more than in the US. It just reflects the shipping and customs cost I have to pay from Mooney in the US to Canada. Clarence Quote
Ron McBride Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 I have been told by Mooney and Russel with SWTA that the induction ducts for the E adn F will be available late January 2012. Ron Quote
aerobat95 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 Could you cover it with fiberglass and epoxy? Or would that not be flexible enough? Quote
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