New Type of Fire Extinguisher

[Bob - S50]

I have no connection with this company.  I just thought it was interesting and thought you might too.

New Type of Extinguisher

Watch the videos to see how it works.

[MooneyMitch]

Very intriguing.  I’ll look forward to others comments.  

FYI..... in-depth YouTube video too...... search Jay Leno’s Garage Element.  

 

Thank you for sharing.

[kortopates]

We talked about them here last year:

 

[MooneyMitch]

16 minutes ago, kortopates said:

We talked about them here last year:

 

Ah ha!  I missed this back then.  Thank you.

[StevenL757]

I missed it too apparently...

[Bob - S50]

1 hour ago, MooneyMitch said:

Very intriguing.  I’ll look forward to others comments.  

FYI..... in-depth YouTube video too...... search Jay Leno’s Garage Element.  

 

Thank you for sharing.

His video is on their website.

[MooneyMitch]

3 minutes ago, Bob - S50 said:

His video is on their website.

Thank you.

[N201MKTurbo]

I wonder how it would be in a cockpit with the smoke that thing makes? 
 

Could you see? Could you breathe?

[Bob - S50]

2 hours ago, Freemasm said:

Quite possibly a good product but the ad is misleading. Halon also stopped combustion at the molecular level; however, it destroyed the Ozone. Much like tetraethyl for octane boost or Freon for cooling, it’s hard to find a real replacement that checks all the boxes like the original.  There have been other, more environmentally friendly formulations since so nothing points toward this chemistry being new.
 

The amount of fuel extinguished is also misleading. Only that fuel that is exposed to an oxidizer will combust. Spread that gallon over a large area and extinguish it with that small canister would have been quite impressive. 

As stated, it may be a wonderful product but the demo proves nothing really new. Product and byproduct (lack of) comparability with aircraft materials and avionics should be considered. Yes, I know. There was a fire; but, if other products do the same job...? More info is needed to judge its merits versus the competition. Love to get my hands on one to test. 

I'm impressed with the size and length of useful firefighting time.

[Hank]

2 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said:

I wonder how it would be in a cockpit with the smoke that thing makes? 
 

Could you see? Could you breathe?

This is important!

[1001001]

I can't find any information about what chemical compound is used/generated on activation.  They claim their unit works "at the molecular level."  I guess their marketers used to write for "Star Trek:  The Next Generation."  Most extinguishing agents other than water rely on direct chemical interference with the combustion reaction.  Without more technical information I wouldn't want to make a decision on safety of use in an aircraft or other confined space.

They also say the compound is "non-corrosive," but what does that mean, exactly?  It's well known that normal dry chemical extinguishers will corrode the heck out of aircraft structures, and the residue gets in every nook and cranny.  I'd need a pretty specific statement from them saying the unit doesn't create a residue that would corrode aircraft equipment.

That said, the compact nature and apparent light weight of these would make them possibly ideal for aircraft use, if the above concerns could be addressed.

[Bob - S50]

2 hours ago, 1001001 said:

I can't find any information about what chemical compound is used/generated on activation.  They claim their unit works "at the molecular level."  I guess their marketers used to write for "Star Trek:  The Next Generation."  Most extinguishing agents other than water rely on direct chemical interference with the combustion reaction.  Without more technical information I wouldn't want to make a decision on safety of use in an aircraft or other confined space.

They also say the compound is "non-corrosive," but what does that mean, exactly?  It's well known that normal dry chemical extinguishers will corrode the heck out of aircraft structures, and the residue gets in every nook and cranny.  I'd need a pretty specific statement from them saying the unit doesn't create a residue that would corrode aircraft equipment.

That said, the compact nature and apparent light weight of these would make them possibly ideal for aircraft use, if the above concerns could be addressed.

On the other hand, an inflight fire will definitely kill me and be very painful.  I'll take it might damage my plane and possibly my lungs over death by fire.

And while I don't believe everything I read/see on the internet they also say that you can have a confined space as small as 1.5 cubic meters and still breathe.  Assuming the cabin is 42" wide and 30" high, that's roughly the size of our cabin.

[1001001]

Just now, Bob - S50 said:

On the other hand, an inflight fire will definitely kill me and be very painful.  I'll take it might damage my plane and possibly my lungs over death by fire.

And while I don't believe everything I read/see on the internet they also say that you can have a confined space as small as 1.5 cubic meters and still breathe.  Assuming the cabin is 42" wide and 30" high, that's roughly the size of our cabin.

Fair enough for an inflight fire.  I agree I'd put up with a lot to be able to put out a fire and get back on the ground in one (uncarbonized) piece.  A ground fire would be a slightly different story; I'd want a non-corrosive and nontoxic extinguishing agent for sure, in a hangar or ramp fire.

[Bob - S50]

Just now, 1001001 said:

Fair enough for an inflight fire.  I agree I'd put up with a lot to be able to put out a fire and get back on the ground in one (uncarbonized) piece.  A ground fire would be a slightly different story; I'd want a non-corrosive and nontoxic extinguishing agent for sure, in a hangar or ramp fire.

Although, once it's on fire it belongs to the insurance company.  All I care about is that nobody is injured.