GTN PIREP

[docket]

If Obama had sent me a stimulus check I would have sent it back.

[mooniac58]

Quote: docket

If Obama had sent me a stimulus check I would have sent it back.

 Me too docket!  Along with a nasty letter!

It's kind of like a thief robbing you naked and shipping you back one of your socks as an apology

[PTK]

Quote: flyboy0681

Well, yea I knew all that, I just thought that you were able to hide the transponder and audio panel on the actual display.

So is the transponder/audio display full time or can you also display navigation information in the same space?

[PTK]

Quote: jlunseth

There are some letters and piece in the recent Aviation Consumer about the GTN's.  Apparently they are not flying off the shelf, too costly and not enough of an improvement from the GNS's.  Also, there was a letter stating that, at least in a composite aircraft, the STC for the 650 did not permit the 650 to be used as primary nav., there needs to be another box in the plane.  The 750 is apparently the solution.  Not clear from the letter whether it was GPS redundancy, or the need for an MFD display of some kind that cause the STC issue.

[flyboy0681]

I feel the same about Anglisano's piece, he seemed to miss the mark.

I was also dismayed by the feedback they published from one Bruce Jordan about the memory requirements for the GTN simulator software. My PC does not have 5 gig of RAM and the simulator works just fine. I don't even think he got the numbers backwards because my PC only has one gig of RAM and the simulator works great.

[PTK]

Quote: flyboy0681

I feel the same about Anglisano's piece, he seemed to miss the mark.

I was also dismayed by the feedback they published from one Bruce Jordan about the memory requirements for the GTN simulator software. My PC does not have 5 gig of RAM and the simulator works just fine. I don't even think he got the numbers backwards because my PC only has one gig of RAM and the simulator works great.

[Piloto]

Quote: allsmiles

Yes, but for us guys who never had a 430 or 530, and I personaly never wanted them because they have too many pushbuttons and knobs, the GTN 750 is a justifiable upgrade to GPS NAV COMM.  Realize, Jose' that I installed a GTN750 plus a GMA35 plus a GTX33 for the same if not less than what a 530 (I said 530 not 530W) cost to install when IT first came out!!

[flyboy0681]

Today my partners and I flew a few holding patterns and approaches using only the GPS Steering and it was something to behold. The system flew the entry and entire racetrack spot on, executing every turn with precision. Watching the A/P fly the glideslope was just as enjoyable. What was really remarkable was the ease of simply punching in the hold and approaches in just a few keystrokes.

[Txbyker]

Flyboy,  by any chance did you fly a missed approach?  I went missed during some IFR work with the GTN650.  I pressed to execute the missed approach and it gave me a route to the MAP.  ATC vectored me different from the route of the GTN.  So of course my plane was off the magenta GPS line of the GTN.  I pressed ->direct to MAP to clean up the route and it flushed the missed procedure from the GTN and replaced it with only a direct to route to the MAP with no procedure after that, no circling, etc.  Just wondering if you experienced this?  I guess once you execute the miss you dont mess with it even though you may be off course.

 

[flyboy0681]

Sorry, we didn't execute any missed approaches this time. Although you did punch in Direct, the flight plan should still have contained everything that you entered prior to the approach. That won't go away until you manually delete it.

[flyboy0681]

I was also dismayed by the feedback they published from one Bruce Jordan about the memory requirements for the GTN simulator software. My PC does not have 5 gig of RAM and the simulator works just fine. I don't even think he got the numbers backwards because my PC only has one gig of RAM and the simulator works great.

 

The guy who submitted his opinion of the simulator software to Aviation Consumer was way off base. I checked the requirements on the DVD and it requires 1 gig of memory and 2 gig of disk space. Not sure where this guy was coming from.

[PTK]

More WOW!!!! moments today !  I flew a few GPS approaches.  It is definitely cool to fly an LPV approach with autopilot capturing the GS and bringing the airplane down the roller coaster to ILS like minimums without any ground aids and totally by satellite!!  I never had this capability before until now with the GTN750 and it is definitely awesome!!  

I do have one question however if someone cares to entertain.  Do you guys fly an approach with ap in NAV mode or HDG?  I have the KFC150 and GTN750.  I know in vectors to final we fly HDG but I'm referring to self flying the approach to a transition outside the FAF without being vectored.  Do you fly in NAV or HDG mode??  And if the answer is NAV mode I have another specific question to follow!! Thanks!! 

 

HAPPY FOURTH TO ALL!!!

[flyboy0681]

Yesterday we were using the KAP150 in Approach mode. Watching it fly the glideslope was incredibly cool but one thing we did notice was that when it flew the localizer it was sort of "scalloping" and not flying a really straight-in approach even though the wind was fairly calm. It was making shallow "S" turns.

Had you experienced that at all?

[PTK]

Quote: flyboy0681

Yesterday we were using the KAP150 in Approach mode. Watching it fly the glideslope was incredibly cool but one thing we did notice was that when it flew the localizer it was sort of "scalloping" and not flying a really straight-in approach even though the wind was fairly calm. It was making shallow "S" turns.

Had you experienced that at all?

[Txbyker]

Allsmiles, just wondering why wouldnt you fly it in APR mode?  I flew an APR approach with GTN and it tracks it very well.

[PTK]

Quote: txbyker

Allsmiles, just wondering why wouldnt you fly it in APR mode?  I flew an APR approach with GTN and it tracks it very well.

[Txbyker]

I push it at FAF but I got that from the ole KLN94.

[Magnum]

Quote: allsmiles

I do have one question however if someone cares to entertain.  Do you guys fly an approach with ap in NAV mode or HDG?  I have the KFC150 and GTN750.  I know in vectors to final we fly HDG but I'm referring to self flying the approach to a transition outside the FAF without being vectored.  Do you fly in NAV or HDG mode??  And if the answer is NAV mode I have another specific question to follow!! Thanks!! 

 

HAPPY FOURTH TO ALL!!!

[PTK]

Sounds like everybody uses HDG mode on the ap.  Reason I ask is I had the ap on NAV mode flying an approach.  It requires a course reversal which is part of nonstandard holding pattern to the right.  In nav mode it tracks fine to a transition and then outbound.  When it comes time for the course reversal the plate requires a parallel entry and turn to the right of approx 210 degrees to reintercept the course inbound. In nav mode the autopilot wants to fly the course reversal to the left!  But the plate says parasllel entry to the right!  So I have to be in HDG mode to accomplish this and follow the plate.  Or be vectored by ATC to final.  

I'm referring to KMIV ILS 10 approach if anyone cares to look it up.  Coming into Ladie, which is the FAF,  on the 236 degree radial from VCN and turning right outbound the course reversal is to the right, but ap wants to go left in Nav mode.  

  The GTN does properly, it seems, annunciate parallel entry although it could be teardrop also. It's just that in NAV mode the ap wants to go left. I guess it's not getting it that it is non standard entry??  Is it possible that the GTN annunciates parallel entry but the ap is trying to fly a teardrop??  Does it matter that Ladie is also the FAF??.

Any suggestions?? Can someone shed some light on this?? Thanks!

[flyboy0681]

Quote: allsmiles

The GTN does properly, it seems, annunciate parallel entry although it could be teardrop also. It's just that in NAV mode the ap wants to go left. I guess it's not getting it that it is non standard entry??  Is it possible that the GTN annunciates parallel entry but the ap is trying to fly a teardrop??  Does it matter that Ladie is also the FAF??.

Any suggestions?? Can someone shed some light on this?? Thanks!