sabino Posted May 31, 2016 Report Posted May 31, 2016 looking to remove the wing of a M20F. Does anyone have the measurements or design to build a wing support transport jig Quote
Mooneymite Posted May 31, 2016 Report Posted May 31, 2016 Hmmmmm. Am I the only MS'er who wonders about the rest of the story? 1 Quote
steingar Posted May 31, 2016 Report Posted May 31, 2016 What little I've read has suggested that the removal of a Mooney wing is a daunting proposal. Quote
1964-M20E Posted May 31, 2016 Report Posted May 31, 2016 betides the numerous bolts that bolt it to the steel frame there are all of the control rods that need to be removed and cataloged as to where they go. Quote
N601RX Posted May 31, 2016 Report Posted May 31, 2016 I've saw pictures of the engine and tail removed and setting on a trailer sideways. The front wheel was removed and set down on the trailer with the tail cone sticking up in the air at about a 45 deg angle. It seems to fit on the trailer pretty well this way. Quote
Mooneymite Posted May 31, 2016 Report Posted May 31, 2016 28 minutes ago, N601RX said: I've saw pictures of the engine and tail removed and setting on a trailer sideways. The front wheel was removed and set down on the trailer with the tail cone sticking up in the air at about a 45 deg angle. It seems to fit on the trailer pretty well this way. I have a buddy who bought a Mooney E to restore transported this way. The empenage was seperated just aft of the cabin. While possibly a quick/cheap way to disassemble and ship, putting it back together is another story. It is still a project 8 years later. Anyone want an E project? Quote
Hank Posted May 31, 2016 Report Posted May 31, 2016 1 hour ago, 1964-M20E said: betides the numerous bolts that bolt it to the steel frame there are all of the control rods that need to be removed and cataloged as to where they go. The gear, flaps, ailerons, fuel tanks, fuel senders, lights/strobes, pitot tube . . . These are the big hitters. Those who need to transport the whole plane typically disconnect the rudder and elevators and drill out the rivets to remove the tail, it's much quicker. It's quite a project. Good luck with it, and please post photos in process and after reassembly! Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted May 31, 2016 Report Posted May 31, 2016 I was looking at trailering a Mooney once. I found someone (Maxwell, Laser etc...) who had shipping fixtures to rent. It was very reasonable. I don't think removing the wing would be that bad. I think my plane buddy and I could easily do it in a day. You will need two fuselage cradles (fancy saw horses) and two wing cradles. Jack the airplane up and place the fuselage cradles under the fuselage. Put the wheels half way down. Remove all control rods that pass under or hook to the wing. Mark them all with a sharpie and take lots of pictures before you take it all apart. Remove all wiring that passes under or connects to the wing. Remove the hoses to the fuel tanks, disconnect the brake lines and the flap linkages. Remove the wing root trim strips, the interior side panels and the back seat. Remove all the bolts holding the wing on and slowly lower it paying attention to what you forgot to disconnect. Well, maybe a day and a half... Quote
tony Posted May 31, 2016 Report Posted May 31, 2016 I'm thinking the factory has a procedure to unload the wing for prior to removal and before installation. You don't want to install it with a preload but I'm not a mechanical engineer. Maybe its not an issue on a bug smasher but it is on the bigger ones. Quote
M20F-1968 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Posted June 1, 2016 It really depends on how far you are moving it. If a great distance, you will want to take the wing off as it is not a wide load that way. If a short distance, it can be mover by taking the empennage off, engine and engine mount, and collapsing the nose gear. The wing and remaining airframe is put onto a trailer with the wing parallel to the length of the trailer. The empennage and the rest is put on the trailer wherever it fits. Saves taking the wing off. You do not want to drill off the empennage. harder to put together and this is the weakest part of the airframe. It can be done this way but you will need a good sheet metal mechanic. They are few and far between. John Breda Quote
Guest Posted June 1, 2016 Report Posted June 1, 2016 I think Alan holds the record for wing removal, mind you it wasn't usable after he was done. The video is on the site somewhere. Clarence Quote
carusoam Posted June 1, 2016 Report Posted June 1, 2016 Welcome aboard, Sabino. The MSC in NJ has the skills and tools/trailer to do it... Where are you at? You may want to describe what you are trying to accomplish. Best regards, -a- Quote
mooniac15u Posted June 2, 2016 Report Posted June 2, 2016 On May 31, 2016 at 8:21 PM, carusoam said: Welcome aboard, Sabino. The MSC in NJ has the skills and tools/trailer to do it... Where are you at? You may want to describe what you are trying to accomplish. Best regards, -a- That same NJ MSC has an M20F wing for sale on Barnstormers... Quote
sabino Posted June 7, 2016 Author Report Posted June 7, 2016 Thanks everybody for the input! It will be traveling for 1400 miles. Don't have questions as far as removing and transporting the plane ( will post pictures ), just wanted to build a jig before getting there in order to speed up the process. Somebody said that someone may be selling a mooney wing? I would like more info on that! Thanks to all! Quote
XXX Posted June 7, 2016 Report Posted June 7, 2016 There's a Mooney Wing on Ebay from a "K" model. http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOONEY-M20K-231-AIRCRAFT-AVIATION-WING-/301573995367?hash=item463735fb67:g:VGQAAOSwBahVEwU3&vxp=mtr Quote
Bennett Posted June 7, 2016 Report Posted June 7, 2016 Thanks everybody for the input! It will be traveling for 1400 miles. Don't have questions as far as removing and transporting the plane ( will post pictures ), just wanted to build a jig before getting there in order to speed up the process. Somebody said that someone may be selling a mooney wing? I would like more info on that! Thanks to all! Call LASAR. They have at least two complete wings. Quote
mooniac15u Posted June 7, 2016 Report Posted June 7, 2016 39 minutes ago, sabino said: Thanks everybody for the input! It will be traveling for 1400 miles. Don't have questions as far as removing and transporting the plane ( will post pictures ), just wanted to build a jig before getting there in order to speed up the process. Somebody said that someone may be selling a mooney wing? I would like more info on that! Thanks to all! I can't seem to get a useful URL for the specific listing. If you go to http://www.barnstormers.com and search for "M20F" you should find it. Here is the text of the ad: GREAT CONDITION • $12,000 • FOR SALE • Mooney wing, 32 gallon tanks, no corrosion, taken off 68 M20F, delivery available, kept inside • Contact David Mathiesen - AIR-MODS AND REPAIR,INC., Owner - located Jackson, NJ USA • Telephone: 609 259 2400 • Fax: 609 259 1200 • Posted May 24, 2016 Quote
sabino Posted June 7, 2016 Author Report Posted June 7, 2016 Again! I can't thank you all enough for all the help! I promise that I will post pics of the move. Thanks! Quote
carusoam Posted June 7, 2016 Report Posted June 7, 2016 Gentlemen, for contact, see. Dave M... MSC in NJ. http://www.air-mods.com Best regards, -a- Quote
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