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Could have been the honeymooney people…? -a- https://mooneyspace.com/search/?q=Honeymooney&quick=1

Well, that is quite normal I'd say. Even up to the world of big passenger jets. The more weight you coax out of it, the less it will perform at MTOM. Somehow we are used to our planes performing by book which usually has only one weight in the performance tables. Clearly, if you wish to increase weight, it will need a new assessment of performance. Nor does it mean you can use the new MTOM up to 50°C in Dubai and expect to get the same performance. Try that in something like an A340 with max load and you are surely grateful for the curvature of the earth! Also you don't climb those to their max level straight away, you do step climbs. I guess some who may shed light in this are people who get 10% overweight permits for e.g. ferry flights. We all know that our Mooneys can do this, just read up on "honeymooney" or similar tales and that one is a stock E model with some speed mods and LOTS of fuel tanks. clearly, the initial climb will be marginal, but things will improve as you shed weight/fuel. My own experience with my lowly 180 hp C model is that it will reach 17000 ft at ISA+20 degrees after a LOOONG climb at MTOW. Also, it will perform much different at MTOW and 40°C outside than at ISA 15° even at sea level. But that is normal. Most probably the easiest way to get a weight increase would probably be to define a new MTOM and define the old MTOM as a Maximum Landing weight. Looking at structural limits, quite a few airplanes sport MLW in order to make take offs with higher weight possible. The load on the gear is quite normal during take off, but can be quite heavy on landing, particularly at high weights.

Oh man - will add (http://honeymooney.com/) to the reading list!

Shawn, If that’s the case... you need to find stories written about the ‘honeymooney’ a pair of world travelers... in a Mooney... Best regards, -a-

Look up "Honey Mooney" https://honeymooney.com/ He's gone around all different ways in an E model He stopped by here a few years ago after crossing from Africa to Brazil IIRC

http://honeymooney.com For more details about the Honey Mooney folks... visit their website.... Best regards, -a-

That ain't nothing- look here He came through my airport a few years ago on another round the world trip in his E model https://honeymooney.com/

I have not heard of Flaemming Pedersen for a long time but Honey Mooney is still registered to his name. I never met him, but some other Mooneyacs in Switzerland have. I'd love to get together with him at some stage. HoneyMooney is a heavily modified E Model. It's got Monroy tanks for starters and was equipped with varying ferry tank configurations over time, up to 150USG total at some stage. It has all the LoPresti speed mods and looks more like a J than an E from the outside. It must be the most travelled E model ever having done the round the world trip plus several other long range trips.

Honeymooney flew over here a couple of years ago [again]. It's an E, with a Swiss flag on the tail.

Since the victims were German, it's unlikely that the Mooney was Swiss registered. IIRC that may have been Flemming & Angela Pederesen in HoneyMooney, HB-DVN. Their's is an M20E, whereas a M20K crashed.

Honeymooney did I think 6 crossings of the Atlantic Ocean, Even in the middle from Africa to Brazil. That leg ( I talked with him) was 11+ hrs with@ 15 hrs fuel. Big tank in the cabin.

Some of their travels can be found here... http://honeymooney.com/ Best regards, -a-

Had a Mooney friend (now gone) who did Tucson to Columbus, OH nonstop once 8+ hrs. I can't do more than 2 +30 or so any more. Too stiff when I get out. Used to do LAS to HOU in 1 day. 7+ hrs, but now stop half way and enjoy the evening meal and room. Look up "honeymooney" on Google sometime to see what world traveling by E model really is.

The Swiss Mooney can be found at Honeymooney.com. It's a little dated but they did pass through here this summer after crossing from the Cape Verde Islands to Brazil in 11.5 hrs (with 15 hrs fuel) for the 5th time across if I remember correctly. They have been "round the world" with it and belong to the exclusive club of "Earthrounders" Earthrounders.com is a very interesting website dedicated to light aircraft and pilots who have "rounded the world"

Dave, the Viking Route minimizes the length of overwater legs, replacing some of it with overland, oversnow and overglacier. Or you can try Honeymooney's route and cross from Brazil to Africa, which has the benefit of being much warmer water. I spoke to them when they stopped in headed to New Orleans. They were very nice and seemed to be enjoying themselves early in their fifth US trip.

Just met a guy and wife who came over across the Atlantic from Cape Verde to Recife Brazil 1600 miles 11 hrs IN AN E MODEL! They have the Monroys and a 35 gal baggage tank. They've done it 5 times. They travel the world in their Mooney Check out www.honeymooney.com

Thanks for keeping your blog, I'm looking forward to your adventure. Many of you know of this site already, but for those that don't. www.honeymooney.com Another E model owner not shy of long distance flights.

Look, I am a rank beginner, and I don't know nothing, but I am reading. I am sure that some of you are familiar with this story: http://honeymooney.com/main_honey.htm He got a 200 hp E model and made all the speed mods. He says that because he had the Johnson bar and other parts that weighed less, he was able to carry more fuel in aux tanks, burning less fuel per hour than a J model and there for able to go more distance between fueling and has been able to circumnavigate the world. Why not an F with speed mods?