M20F

I reccomene a PPI that is also an annual. A PPI gives you limited options if the AP/I misses something. With an annual you have some leverage should say a 40+ yr old 337 is missed. Other then that corrision, spalled cam, and leaking tanks are probably the top three expensive things listed in order.

I have over 500,000 BTU available in a T-Hanger and beer. It is never too cold to hanger fly. I have no desire to push the plane out when it is much below 30 and a lot less desire to push it back in below 30. I have flown a fair amount in the FL’s and in North Dakota cold. Breath equals ice and my heater is awful. As I age my desire to fly is more centered around things I want to do versus things I need to do. So for me anything below about 30-40 is bleh unless it involves flying to KEYW or MWCR.

1967F with hyrdaulic flaps. Two pumps which is take off configuration. My take is be ready for the go around not the landing.

He covers the what if I spend $100K upgrading a C model in the report does that make it worth $150k in the report.

Join MAPA it is cheap and helps the Mooney community.

The MAPA numbers work the challenge I find for most is getting the speed right as opposed to the power setting. It takes awhile to slow a Mooney down. They can slow down or go down but doing both tends to be a challenge. Make sure you are communicating with ATC when you want to start your descent so you can be 120 or so prior to FAF. Trying to burn off 6000 feet 4 miles out isn’t going to work with any MP setting.

My turbo F with long range tanks would be about 6hrs (no wind) at 160-170kts at FL200 and would carry 500+ lbs with IFR reserves. While the numbers of the post J’s are amazing in many respects I think the trade offs become a lot more extreme as well. N201MKTurbo probably has the best Mooney possible.

So you feel comfortable flying 100lbs over gross when the paperwork said it was ok, but you don’t when it doesn’t? Lost here.

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Weight/CG impact performance heavily as well. On a laminar flow wing like a Mooney having you average layer of wing crud can shave knots as well. I would agree with a lot of what Vance and The latex salesman have said. The truth is in the middle.

If the temp is above freezing it is the best at getting frost off.

This is why 91.3 and 91.13 exist (the two key regulations to know as a pilot). The best example is you can fly IMC in Class G very clearly according to the regulations. The FAA has also been clear that those who do can generally expect a 91.3 violation. https://www.touringmachine.com/images/ifr_checkride/IFR_Class_G.pdf There is a better ruling involving somebody who did establish and defeat that flying in class G with no clearance while appropriately rated was legal, that person though was unsuccessful in the 91.13 argument and got a 60 day revocation. I can’t seem to locate it though.

Till you actually need to fix something that breaks and then there is a very big difference between a carborated 4 and a high performance turbo’ed 6 cylinder. Somewhat disingenuous to imply cost of ownership will be the same between the 2 models.

Took it on and off multiple times trouble shooting an issue. I personally think some F’s have longer bolts then others but base that on nothing other then I have heard differing experiences over the years. Mine is a 67.

From a practical standpoint most people don’t gain much with a faster plane or a turbo. I spent a year flying my F for work and clocked almost 300hrs that year with a lot of 3-5hr legs. A rocket would have maybe sliced 20-25% of those hours for a lot more gas/upkeep/insurance. If you are flying 1hr legs a really fast plane doesn’t do much but burn a lot more money I also have a RayJay which I like but rarely does it make economical sense to get into class A and it really only gets used to get to 9-11k feet. The F has a roomy cabin as far as Mooney’s go and a fantastic useful load. It is cheap to maintain/operate. That being said logic rarely figures into private plane ownership, thus the varying opinions.

Redid mine and had to loosen the mounts to get it to slide off the bolts. It is not a fun thing to take on/off.

Thanks Fred

Parts book shows 610082 but no luck finding a match for that anywhere. It is one of the hex bolt unscrew not a riveted one. Appreciate if anyone can share replacement info.

One thing being left out of the discussion is ILS stands for instrument landing system. It has specific requirements for lights, runway markings, etc. not just a radio beam. An LPV does not have the same requirements. When you do an ILS you know exactly what you will get when you swivel your head up and out the window. With an LPV each approach can be very differing. LPV 10 / ILS 10 it’s 6 to 1, half a dozen to another. ILS 10R versus LPV 10L odds are I pick the ILS because I like lots of lights and markings. In most cases LPV’s lacking specific lights/marks will have higher minimums as well though not in all cases.

A paint job is fairly inexpensive. Radios, autopilot, etc. are not. I would put this plane at about $40k assuming no glaring issues.

Specifically looking for 2 WAAS sources. I fly 200-300hrs for work and that includes a lot of IFR. Not having LPV has been a limiter for me and I like 2 of everything. Plus the GTN is going to be more than I am looking to spend. Is the GDL-88 the secret to the ADS-B in?

They can be fit to almost anything the STC list was pretty diverse. In the case of Mooney either the airframe or engine STC (forget which) is no longer available so exceptionally complicated/expensive to do today. Plenty of them out there to buy though.

I am looking to display weather and traffic on the Garmin if possible for a reasonable amount of money. If not will go the ForeFlight/Stratux route which is what I have now. At some point will move to a G5/Aspen but not ready to make the leap yet.

Currently have 430 want to do 430W upgrade to it, add a GTN 650/GI106B. Also need ADS-B solution and ability to display on 650 plus a audio panel. Appreciate feedback/ideas.