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3.89 at DMW. I had it at $3.89 at GED who out of staters have a tax discount if another 23 cents for $3.66 PPG! But at least we got it down to $4.75 from over $6 at the fly in at MQS.

LOCATION CHANGE - already edited above. We are now flying to MQS on Saturday, still a 9AM arrival. The restaurant at the other location doesn't open until later on Saturday. The March Mooney Breakfast Flight will be this weekend, Saturday, March 12th at KMQS - Chester County / Carlson - Coatsville, PA. Arrival is 9:00 AM. Fuel at KMQS is a discounted price of $4.75 full service with Signature (Usually $6.09 - the GM gave us a very nice discount). Make sure you are on the discount list (I negotiated $1.34 off per gallon - say you are with me, Seth Meyers, or the Mooney Flight - even if you are not a Mooney). Also, by eating at the restaurant the security and handling fee is waived even if you don't buy fuel. The Flying Machine Cafe is located inside the main terminal. Sorry for the location change, but the restaurant where we were originally headed didn't open until later this Saturday. Sorry for the confusion. -Seth

Will anyone be coming through by NJ around: 3N6 or BLM? Adam needs a ride from 3N6 or BLM in NJ - His Ovation is down for maintenance -Seth

Glad he walked away. Hope he recovers. N242TS is the tail number. I don't want to be in that situation, however if I lose an engine on takeoff, I too hope to be able to walk away. Again, here's to a quick recovery. -Seth

PM sent. Again, M20E/M20F pricing.

UPDATE - *SOLD* I have been made aware of a Mooney Missile (NOT MINE) that may be coming to market soon. It will need everything firewall forward overhauled in the next few years if not the first year of ownership, however, it is priced accordingly - well below market value (M20E/M20F territory). It's an early 1980s M20J Missile 300 with original interior, paint, and mainly original panel - which is a good Panel - King stack with AP/HSI etc . . . I did see an engine monitor (if you were to install a new WAAS GPS and Transponder combo, like a 650 and GTX-345 would get you ADSB and displays in panel. Dollars wise, King has a great trade in program for King product, thus you could get a King WASS GPS and Transponder as well, less functionality however ADSB wise). PM me with your email and I'll email you the information I have. Once you do EVERYTHING needed to this airplane, a Mooney Missile that is currently airworthy and flying, just tired, including new paint and interior, which you don't need, but is a nice to have, you'll have a fully customized Mooney Missile with an entirely overhauled firewall forward for $15k to $20k less than one in that condition would go for on the market. The Engine/prop/everything firewall forward is at the end of it's first run from the Missile conversion in the late 1990s. You can also choose to do this in steps over a few years and save the paint and interior for a few years down the road. The extended range Monroy tanks were resealed by Paul Beck prior to the current individuals ownership. If you are an A&P, or can do a lot of the work yourself, you'll come out even more ahead. If you have ever thought of upgrading, now may be a time to get yourself a Mooney Missile for a steal. PM me - I have no financial interest in this bird - simply passing on good information to the best place I can think of for Mooney Lovers. And I really like my Mooney Missile! -Seth UPDATE as of 4/12/16 - A purchase agreement has been placed on the Missile in questions and it will undergo a prebuy inspection. I am not aware of the price but will post if it has been sold or if it's available again after I get word. *SOLD*

Oscar - I know we didn't get to visit too much last month at Hagerstown - hope you can make it to GED this Saturday 3/12 again, 9:00 Arrival for the March Mooney Breakfast Flight. Would love to see another video! -Seth

*******LOCATION CHANGE - Now MQS ******* ***Weather is set for VFR for our breakfast flight. See everyone tomorrow a few more RSVPs have come in but I'm not updating the list**** The March Mooney Breakfast Flight will be this weekend, Saturday, March 12th at KMQS - Chester County / Carlson - Coatsville, PA. Arrival is 9:00 AM. We have 7 Mooney's, 2 Bonanza's, and a Tiger confirmed thus far. I'll update the list as we receive RSVPs. Feel free to invite guests, other pilots, and any type of aircraft. We'll watch weather of course, which looks good right now. Last month, we had 5 aircraft and 9 individuals. 4 aircraft cancelled due to weather and rightfully so. The flight up was easy (as you can see from Oscar's video http://mooneyspace.com/topic/17887-flying-to-the-kgai-mooney-breakfast-in-hagerstown-pa/#comment-260532) the flight back not so; some just beat out the rain, and others filed IFR to get home. Fuel at KMQS is a discounted price of $4.75 full service with Signature (Usually $6.09 - the GM gave us a very nice discount). Make sure you are on the discount list (I negotiated $1.34 off per gallon - say you are with me, Seth Meyers, or the Mooney Flight - even if you are not a Mooney). Also, by eating at the restaurant the security and handling fee is waived even if you don't buy fuel. The Flying Machine Cafe is located inside the main terminal. Sorry for the location change, but the restaurant where we were originally headed didn't open until later this Saturday. The Monthly Mooney Breakfast Flights began with the eight Mooney Pilots at KGAI and has expanded to the entire Mid-Atlantic region. Each month a location in the Mid-Atlantic region will be chosen and a date will be set for the breakfast flight. Breakfast will typically be a 9:00 AM arrival. I'll work to procure fuel discounts when possible. Posts to MooneySpace and the NJ Mooney Pilots group will be made as soon as possible. Please let me know if you plan to attend so I can give the restaurant at KMQS The Flying Machine Cafe a proper headcount. See you Saturday! -Seth ------- Attendees Listed Below ---------- Attendees: Updated March 11th @ 11:16 PM Seth - GAI - M20J Missile 300 Bob - W42 - V Tail Bonanza John - FDK - V Tail Bonanza Chris - Delware - M20F Peter - NJ - M20J + 1 Dan - KILG - M20M Bravo Tim - GAI - M20E + 1 Paul - 1N7 - M20M Bravo + 1 Steve - NJ - M20J Alan - NJ - 182 Brad - Mooney Glenn- NJ - Mooney Maybe Adam - Needs a ride from 3N6 or BLM in NJ - His Ovation is down for maintenance --------------------------------

I know when I replaced a bungee in my former 1967 F model with a Johnson Bar, the manual retraction went from a workout to smooth as butter. I know that did not answer your question, but if you have any hesitation or catching and thus man powering your manual gear system, that's not how it was designed to work. It's supposed to be a fluid smooth motion without too much resistance. -Seth

Nice to have friends like that! I hope to be that friend in however many years it takes (Not necessarily at T-33, but same idea). Very cool! -Seth

I think it's a great looking E priced right. How is the spar cap? I may have missed it if mentioned earlier If it's a 64 does that mean the shorter vs full span rudder? If anyone is looking at a C or E look at this one! I persnally looked at a 1964 E in 2007, N1287X, and did not move forward with the purchase. When I saw N1297X, I did a double take just to make sure it wasn't the same plane updated - it's not, but boy was it close! -Seth

I also lean aggressively on the ground and have never had a problem with my spark plugs in 8 years of Mooney ownership. I have also replaced my spark plugs when my maintenance facility's recommendation. -Seth

After the parts and tools portion posts, I've noticed that many of us carry a spark plug or two in our aircraft. I only do because that's what was in the gear of the previous owner of the first airplane I owed. I noted many who commented on the two threads I created mentioned carrying an extra spark plug. I've also read it makes sense to have one on board, and it does. I do understandy why, however I have to ask: Has anyone had to ever use their spare spark plug? Has one of the plugs for no reason whatsoever just gone bad with no warning and you were not near or at your home base? Just curious to hear "real life stories." -Seth

You know, I thought that, but was unsure. I know that 29.92 at 18,000 feet tends to allow for traffic flying at 17,900 to potentially be over the traffic flying at 18,000 at 29.92. So this confirms some thoughts in my head but really didn't know for sure. I always wondered about that. Thanks for the info! I will go up there at least once just to be in class Alpha airspace, but the Mode S will be more for upgrading my original transponder and preparing for future trips should Canada or countries in central/south America ever require Mode S as well. -Seth

Thank you for all the responses and information. At this point, I'll most likely go 1090ES Mode S in my Mooney Missile. I'll pull the trigger on the GTX-345 proably sometime late this year or early next year after I hear of true PIREPs in the filed and also to see if anything else has entered the market. It will replace my KT76A which will replace a 32 year old box and then no encoder is necessary. I remove one box and put one in, so useful load won't suffer (even though it would only be maybe 4 pounds) and the only functionality I won't have is pushing the flight plan back and forth from the 430W to the Ipad. I may install the FS 210 at the same time. However, having traffic and weather on the ipad is a nice plus with the GTX-345 alone. -Seth

I know you can interpret that a lot of different ways. I don't mean your brain or any other body part, however, as noted in my "What Extra Parts do you Carry in your Mooney" thread, here is the tool thread: What tools do you carry on board your Mooney for field repair/tinkering if needed? Duct Tape WD-40 Multi tip screwdriver Multi tool (leatherman) Flashlight(s) Socket wrench Hammer? Tire pressure gauge? Etc . . . . Please list away In the future there will also be a "survival thread" which of course will be different for climates, as well as a flight bag accessible and flight bag not as accessible thread. So that's five "bags." Extra equipment, Tools, flight bags (accessible and not accessible), and survival. Obviously for efficienty, your leatherman/multi tool would be used for your flight bag, survivial bag, and tool bag. However, still list any tool individually for the purpose of this list. You can also combine some of the separate "bags" into just one or two "bags." Again, today we are concentrating on tools. Take care, -Seth

Alan - didn't realize you were at Tipton! I would have driven over and assisted or brought some food (though that was taken care of). It does pain me to see a Mooney get chopped up, but as Alan said, and as noted here, the donor parts will keep the rest of the fleet flying! Just out of curiosity, take a look at the spar cap when you get home and if it doesn't look perfect, post a picture showing what to look for so we are al enlightened, as that tends to be a death sentence of many of our birds. -Seth

I can't wait to go flying with my daughter! That's a great video! -Seth

Good question - it seems it's been answered by others here. Just trying to give a little advice to a new instrument rated pilot so that they know they can ease into lower and lower minimums for their own comfort. Even with an instrument ticket you can legally kill yourself. Experience grows over time and though in my opinion, you can probably nail an approach to minimums right after your IFR Checkride better than in many future years, those two weeks off as someone else noted, the rustiness sets in, and you can get yourself into real trouble. Some people set 500AGL ceilings. Some published minimums, some 1000 feet gentlemanly IFR mins. Every situation is different and each pilot has a different risk tolerance they may take. My decision making process has added new layers now that I have more experience, have flown in a lot of types of weather, and have a spouse and baby girl at home. I still have a lot to learn, however I also have noticed and nipped in the bud get-there-itis more than in the past which I historically tended to fell prey to. When on my game, I have flown to minimums. Right now, seeing that I flew 90 and 70 hours respectively in the last two years, I probably won't go flying on those days, or will alter my destinations. In the past, when flying 250 hour per year by hand, with no in panel GPS and before iPads with paper charts I flew to minimums routinely in my M20F. I now in my M20J Missile 300 have a good autopilot, GPS, and the plane can literally fly automated to a few feet over the runway if I wanted (I tend to disconnect at published minimums or when I'm visual, but have in VFR conditions experimented with how low it can get), while monitoring, but my hours are down, my hand flying skills are rusty in my opinion (though a few hours flying and practice approaches will cure that) and my personal minimums are not the published minimums in my opinion right now even though I have better equipment than I used to. I don't think I'd fly to published minimums right now at an airport is close to icing conditions in the mountains as I there is a lot to juggle with a missed, while climbing through cold temps, between peaks, to get to a safe heading on a specific bearing to hold. I like to have an out. It's a sliding scale for me depending and the many data points assist the decision making process. I'm sure even now I would fall prey to certain decision making factors that we have to watch out for, but at least I'm aware of them and do look at alternatives. Hope those who responded as well as this helps. No argument noted and feel free to follow up. -Seth

This from AVWEB today - a tour of the Mooney Factory with the new M20U Ovation Ultra and M20V Acclaim Ultra Do you see any additional attachment points that may be made for a parachute? -Seth

Congratulation! That's a lot of performance in a turbo F. It's also a very useful set up - there when you want it, off when you don't - a second power lever. Enjoy your Mooney! We are looking forward to more pictures and stories of your new capabilities. Fly the pattern at the right speeds and you'll be fine - if it doesn't look or feel right, go around. Every landing is a go around, many just end up smoothly touching down. -Seth

$5000 from the factory, right? -Seth

Good luck with the upcoming knee replacement for your spouse. Not fun, but in the long run it'll be a great decision made.

Your airplane looks fantastic. I'm sure it have a lot of interest. A late model M20J in amazing shape - It all comes down to how much someone is will it pay, as it's a 1992 J and they didn't make to many after that date. If you haven't yet, repost your Add for sale in the aircraft for sale section of MooneySpace. -Seth

What extra parts do you carry with you in your Mooney. Your parts "go bag" so that if something breaks, you are not stranded. An extra spark plug or two? Duct Tape? Landing Light (if you are not LED equipped)? A window latch? An Exhaust Hanger Spring (I used to carry one of those in my F model), a quart of oil? Just curious. This is not the tools you carry discussion (another topic) or a survival gear you carry discussion, but what Mooney parts do you carry in your airplane just in case something breaks and you don't want to be stranded for a few days? -Seth