Stephen

Amen

I was supprised, thought I had been slammed by a really bad crosswind , but it was too steady, I instantly lowered the nose to get the speed up until I saw the RT wing brake up and retracted it. Bag of luck down by X, bag of experiece up by Y.

Good advice Anthony, thanks.

I have had asymetric deployment due to a bad clutch and had to have them rebuilt this annual, no T shirt unfortunately ... much more interesting was that I found out they were deploying assymetrically due to inadvertant deployment during takeoff. That was definately an attention getter. Verifying that they are stowed is now on my pre-takeoff checklist. I think I hit the yoke switch during the controls free and correct check and was looking at the aileron on the wing that the SB didnt deploy on.

Ok, fair enough, they dont seem to have much surface area (to generate significant drag at rollout speeds) for sure, I just seem to notice a shorter rollout

Really good feedback so far... One thing I notice there seems to be some effect on approach that is definitely lessened due to the lower approach energy and higher angle of attack......... but (for those of you who are comfortable with the practice) notice what happens when they are deployed and the mains contact ....the angle of attack comes out due to the nose coming down.. then they get full profile efficacy again. It really seems to make the aircraft 1) plant firmly and 2) slow down noticeably more quickly making the first turnoff or dealing with more authority on a short runway.

Interesting thread on landings going on. To avoid a thread-hijack, I started this one as a spawn-off. The mechanic who did my annual this year has a mooney as his personal plane. He recommended that I try landing with the speed breaks deployed. He said it makes the mooney land like a 172. After trying it, I don't entirely disagree; it seems to significantly change the character of the aircraft. I would like to hear from those who have tried this in their aircraft and wring out your thoughts on the practice. I think before someone does this for the first time, you should probably get a good excess of altitude and be familiar how having your speed brakes deployed in landing configuration changes the speed and symmetry of your stall. Also, this is one more thing to remember on a go-around, but as a tool for certain situations: Have you done it? In what precise configuration (wrt flaps etc) Do you do it / if so when and in what conditions? I know many don't have speed brakes, although my F has them I think I used them about 2-3 times in my first year of ownership (trying them out, getting through a hole in an overcast etc). Thoughts?

I have come to the firm conclusion that you are just that much of a better man if you know Don Muncy. Don, had a great time at dinner tonight; thanks for taking time out.

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@bill98 Hey Bill, Don and I are meeting at Outback Steakhouse 9382 Hwy 121 Frisco, TX at 7PM Wednesday 9/5 if your work schedule allows, c'mon over.

Definitely understand that.

Just a pirep on the tie down at McKinney (KTKI) ; it was $10/night so pretty reasonable for 15ish min away from my hotel and worksite.

Wow Bill, that is super generous of you!!! I had already made arrangements at KTKI on the north side for rental etc, but I wanted to extend a huge thanks! That said, if you would like to meet another MS'er while I'm there I am open Thursday night!.

That one is only for experimental though, this is TSO. http://www.therealflux.com I think it would look nice un the center of the aft hat rack surface.... bolt em up boys! (Good for at least 5 knots at cruise)

Thanks Parker; im game; really need to get the IPC knocked out; will text you my number

Paul, how do you work around the 252's altitude affinity and the dog, just curious.

Welcome Mike

^ ditto, thanks to guidance from MS guidance.

Hi Zjggy it looks like they pushed my Dallas trip to tuesday/wednesday thru friday instead of sunday through tuesday, if dropping off friday would be an option I could probably fly you to OKC on my return trip.

No prob

Hi MSrs, I am going to fly down to Dallas this week for work. If any MSrs would like to grab dinner I’m game. I think ill be in the Carrolton area. I also need to renew my IPC if anyone is)/knows a good CFII in the area. Looks like KADS is close to my worksite but I bet the tie down fees are impressive ; any FBO recommendations?

Well, my F is up here in Hannibal KHAE this weekend. If you can fly up in your cherokee you can sit in mine; we could possibly go up for a bit. The steampunked festival is this weekend too.

Hannibal KHAE steam punked festival is this weekend

NP

I'm more of a long shot, but I might have to fly down to Dallas and then back up to AR or MO, may be able to divert, but waiting on business schedule. I a probably 3/10 chance that it comes in by next week.