CaptainAB

Cirrus is unique designing their planes to enhance the passengers experience, knowing that many of us wanted to fly with our friends and family. Mooney’s were designed to focus on the pilot experience, a much more competitive field and one that doesn’t seem to have as much of a premium on “new”.

The Last Expo I went to with a static display that had Mooney, well it was daunting. Not just Cirrus but the bulk of the competition shows even the Mooney to be a legacy airframe . Diamond, Tecnam, and Cirrus, not to mention the Honda Jet, Cirrus Jet. Piper even shows off their newer airframes well, and of course they have the niche of the only pressurized cabin class piston. Which is important because if I were to be able to afford a new ultra acclaim, I think I would in reality end up with a m350 or a used mirage. I love speed and I believe in the old adage to buy the fastest airframe you can afford, but affordability can be a tricky question in aviation, like anything else I suppose. It’s a complicated question for each pilot to ad themselves based on skill, ability, finances and mission. Like can you afford to die and possibly kill others because you were to cheap to buy a safer / more capable plane. I moved up from a g2 SR22 to a g5 sr22 recently because I needed the fifth seat and a 300lb useful load boost. (G5, but also ditched de ice) That dollar cost isn’t worth it except I can now legally and safely fly my family (I was flying with the girls sharing a seat belt). I also use my plane for a few business ventures, some require BRS. And the G5 seats are super comfortable and make a 4:30 leg pleasant . Also my insurance over the past few years been 250 per month cheaper on the same price airframes (ovation vs sr22). Which actually flipped from when Cirrus first came to the market. Its a tough spot for Mooney to be in. A lot of great airframes haven’t made it. Most recently the Columbia/Cessna 400. Which early on was widely regarded and I think even outsold the SR22.

To borrow from Steve Jobs I think it’s accurate to say, the marketing folks ran Mooney into the ground. The product guys built Cirrus into a giant.

What good reasons would compel a significant group of buyers in this market to buy a brand new Mooney? 954 sales last year so there is plenty of sales to be had.

It’s great field. I was there today. Parking was packed and they have already closed a taxiway to install bleachers for the st pete Grand Prix. Definetly call ahead and secure parking. Also watch for sailboat on short final.

130 TT over 6 months or 3 years. If you are Flying 15-20 hrs per month or more your going to be just fine.

Wet 170 per hour? Maybe because Mooney is paying for all parts the first two years? I’m going to guess your insurance will at least be double that number, probably triple depending on the pilot qualifications. And some want quote you with four named pilots? I think based on hanging out with the cirrus guys that buy new, if you have to plan and budget a 950k piston single, you probably aren’t the buyer they are looking for. but how cool would it be to have three partners and buy a used acclaim for cash. Is that extra door really worth 600k? 242 knots at 300k is like 1200 per knot, sounds almost reasonable. 242 knots at 950k. Ouch.

Yeah that’s real funny. The person that told her it was the “ flux capacitator” is the same guy that would put jet A in your airplane on purpose, because hey it’s your job to check after him.

249 wet for an SR22 can’t be beat. Unless you are flying 200 hours a year. If it’s pride of ownership your after then I agree with the comments above. More then one partner is likely one too many.

If I had to guess I’d guess the cessna 182 has more aftermarket mods then any other GA aircraft. Speed mods, STOL mods, gear mods, seat mods ,cargo mods, engine mods, float kits, etc

KVNC. Great cafe in the FBO. kcdk if you dare. It’s like landing on a carrier. spg tpf spruce creek is very cool.

The new J is an SR20

Its a trick question. The best J on the market is actually an Ovation......

Least of all Mooney, being outsold 32 to 1 by that other company that installs BRS on every plane they build.......

Spruce Creek has to be one of the best there is. You said "Family" so watch out for school zones, it is going to kill most of the ones Florida. AB